Tuesday, April 03, 2007

4/3/07, Two Birds with One Electronic Stone

The “Exposé” Exposed and Eviscerated or the Sins of the PPSA and the Steps to Repentance"

[For a previous exchange on this topic in January '07, go here. A brother then makes good on March 12, '07 regarding his promise to write an “Exposé” of the Effort meeting/study group. A "judicial ruling(?)" from the Session of the RPNA(GM) is then released March 22, '07, evidently building upon the previous and related information. This "ruling" is entitled "Sins Committed by "The Effort" And Steps to Repentance". The following addresses both.]

[Cover email]
From: Bob S.
To: Ben H.
Cc: List
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Effort

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben H.
To: Ben H.
Cc: List
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:07 AM
Subject: Effort

Please see the attached letter. If I've inadvertently sent this to someone who has requested to be left off any further correspondence of this kind, please forgive my oversight.

Dear brother,

Thank you for yours.
A reply can be found here [below]

Thank you very much.

cordially in Christ,
Bob S.


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Dear Ben,
While it has been three weeks since the receipt of your post, it was only after someone forwarded me the “Sins Committed By “The Effort” And Steps to Repentance (SESR)” last week that I understood a little more of what you were up to. Consequently a few comments regarding your recent mea culpa.

While I thank you for your post – after my reply to your previous rough draft, I am a little surprised to still be on the list – and while of course, it is commendable to strive after and keep a clean conscience, void of offence to God and man (Acts 24:16), your letter fails to correctly state:
I. When this all started.
II. Who started/consolidated the church split.
III. Who broke who’s promises.
IV. In other words, you fail entirely to mention the sins of the PPSA and the steps to repentance.

I. The pre-eminent and glaring omission from your list of events which begins with June 11, ‘06, is the date of June 4, ‘06. That is when the Position Paper on Sessional Authority (PPSA) was released by the “Session of the RPNA(GM)” which the PPSA of course, justifies and defends. (So too, the glaring and sinful omission in the PPSA is any mention of the binding judicial/RP historical testimony, particularly regarding extraordinary sessions as seen in the Minutes of the Reformed Presbytery of America (Steele and Lusk) for Oct. 5, 1842. Yes, it is only one instance, but that was good enough for the “self” excommunications.)

In other words in all this, you fail to state the obvious: NO PPSA – NO private study group. (So too, the SESR fails the same distinction.) It is that simple. Now the group has been disbanded/euthanized. (The last ought to please some folks.) All of its members who signed the Charitable Inquiry paper have been excommunicated. But all those that still remain in the RPNA(GM), including yourself, remain conscience bound by the new confidential loyalty oath – i.e. the new membership oath in the RPNA(GM) – to this monument, as we shall see below, of mediocrity, ambiguity and equivocation. Will you be as diligent and quick to point out the sinful errors of the PPSA to us all as you allege of the group that opposed it? We shall see, I suppose, but I am not yet quite blind to what is glaringly apparent in yours – or the SESR for that matter. The PPSA at the very least sins against reason, if not also history and Scripture and the steps to repentance start with a repudiation of it by those superiors responsible for it, as well the oath which affirms it and the excommunications based upon both the PPSA and the oath. Yet we find no mention of that at all in your letter.

II. While you have toned it down from your previous draft, it is still a little late in the day to be asking a graduate student in philosophy, who has also taught high school Latin, what a “post hoc propter hoc” – “after this, because of this” – fallacy is and whether your insinuation that the Effort consolidated, if not caused the church split is a picture perfect/textbook example of the same. (Yes, we know Monday comes before Wednesday, but that does not mean Monday causes Wednesday.) Ahem, if this is not sinful and culpable ignorance on someone’s part, just exactly what is it?

You also should know what an ad hominem fallacy is, as applied to the objections, questions and concerns voiced about the PPSA. (We all know Hitler was evil and wore pants, but that doesn’t mean pants are evil.) Those concerns stand or fall on their own merits, regardless if the group that put together the Charitable Inquiry or anybody else that had objections, was less than pristine in motive or ecclesiastical constitution according to your hyper scrupulous sensibility. You are offended at the “sins” of inferiors, but blind to even the possibility of any in superiors, much more any that provoked them. In short, contra the Scripture, you respect persons. Likewise the SESR is diligent to enumerate the sins of inferiors, but fails entirely regarding superiors other than in brief passing. (The reader is respectfully referred to a previous mention of duties and sins of superiors vis a vis the Fifth commandment here.)

“But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” Luke 12:48

III. As for your main reason why the study group was wrong, “that all parties took an oath to bring their concerns privately to the elders and work them out with them before publishing anything contrary to the teachings of the elders,” one, I did not swear an “oath” upon becoming a member of the PRCE. Rather I made a promise or gave assent - to obey the elders in the Lord, who at that time comprised the genuine PRCE session. Further, the substantive question (4C) on the RPNA webpage is: “Are you willing to submit yourselves to the preaching and to the elders of this church (in so far as both are agreeable to the Word of God)?” The elders did not require at that time nor did I ever acknowledge a carte blanche for them to do as they please, much more it would be unlawful for me to do so. Even further, an acknowledgment is required “not to speak contrary to the truth of God (as represented in the subordinate standards of the Reformed Presbytery in North America (General Meeting))” – though when I joined it was the PRC of Edmonton. Those subordinate standards can be found here. They did not include then and do not include now, the Position Paper on Sessional Authority (6/4/06) or “Tattoos and the Word of God (4/31/06).”

Two, the PPSA itself was not what was promised by the three elders on Jan. 1, ‘06, nor was it what we set aside a solemn day of prayer and fasting for on Jan. 21, ‘06, not only for the confession of the public sins of the church - whatever those were - but also that the Lord would bless the plans to “restructure the RPNA.” (For once, the letter was signed by “The Session of the RPNA” in that maybe it occurred to someone that a genuine session is no part of a General Meeting.) But this is not a mockery of the 9th Commandment and the ordinance of solemn public fasting, not to mention that no real reason was given for the switch even after one of the two full time elders took a day job since that promise? Neither was a public forum set up as promised Mar. 29, ‘06 by TE Greg Price. In other words, if anybody broke their promise, it was the parties responsible for the PPSA. Again, of that there is absolutely no mention in your latest. Likewise the SESR studiously avoids it. But one of the many times the Scripture speaks of having respect of persons is in Proverbs 24:23: “These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.” Hence, it might appear that your comments are neither wise nor good.

Three, As far as going to the elders privately with my questions and concerns which seems to me to be the major objection of both yours and the SESR, I had done that repeatedly as an individual and had got the runaround. The last time was immediately after I became aware of the Tattoos and the Word of God paper on May 8, ‘06 (all the material is available here). I received by way of reply a bunch of questions from the elders that instead of being Socratic, studiously avoided the real issue and questions: If tattoos are indifferent, just how does one glorify God by them? Are most people today getting them for indifferent or God glorifying reasons? How come there was no mention at all of the classic passage of Scripture on all this, 1 Cor. 3:16, 17 in that the Christian consensus in the past has been that if believers are the temple of God, tattoos only defile it?

Since TATWOG clearly argues that making marks, cutting oneself or cutting one’s hair is merely indifferent and only forbidden because it was connected with pagan superstitious rituals for the dead, so too, one might assume that astrology and prostitution in the same passage of Scripture, Lev. 19:26-29, are also indifferent and permissible as long as they are not connected to pagan worship. (As far as that goes, the paper completely begs the question and distinction in Gillespie’s comments between what is moderate and immoderate mourning and erroneously builds its case on that mistaken reading.) Likewise I am sure birth control is also indifferent in and of itself and it is only the circumstances that make it sinful. But if tattoos are again, indifferent, that is not why most, if not all people are getting them today, which is what TATWOG most studiously and sinfully avoids addressing.

1 Cor. 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
Jer. 48:10 Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

Four, as for the Wash. Society, we had also got the runaround from the elders in answer to our two letters of 11/28/04 and 1/16/05 to them, pre-eminently on the name change to the RPNA(GM), though we had also asked them about elder training and visitation, better communication with the societies, a sermon tape library, etc. etc. Unfortunately we did not have enough of a consensus to follow up our questions, nor were we fully awake to the problems and contradictions, so the matter went no further, though I tried personally to pursue a few things with the elders.

If that is not enough, when Greg Price and Greg Barrow did come out for the Washington Society’s last visit Jan. 21, ‘05, all of us were informed then in person what one member had learned talking to Greg Barrow on the phone Jan. 9th, '05 – that the birth control paper had been put on hold indefinitely. The same which was which was promised and called a “duty” in the June 14,‘03 letter from the three elders. The same position which was the material cause to the dissolution of the Reformed Presbytery on June 6, ‘03. To the best of my memory, we encouraged/asked the elders to announce this publicly, i.e. in the same forum/format it was promised as a matter of prudence, decency and good order. That never happened until just recently and only because it became a point of public contention when people were excommunicated after a four month waiting period for questions on the PPSA, all the while the church had been waiting for the elders for three, now going on four, years for their paper. What is this, but a double standard? To say and do not? What is this other than superiors laying burdens on the sheep they themselves are unwilling to fulfill? But to whom more is given, more is required (Lk.12:48). Or is this requirement also something the elders may set aside by virtue of their office or “court?” If so, that is certainly news to me. Is it to you?

Five, you fail entirely to mention the elder approved public email scandals, that, if they do not prove the prejudice of the “court” and the absence of impartiality, they at least demonstrate its inability to come to a reasonable and equitable judgement, never mind prejudicing the public perception of the “court.” The phony affidavit scandal on the email lists which had begun in January ‘06, ran its course and finally died in March. The phony analogy/euthanasia scandal on the church email forum came hard on the heels of the release of the PPSA, commencing as it did, Jun. 26 and culminated in the shutdown of the PRCE Forum July 30, ‘06.

In other words, we saw that the policy and practice of the hand picked proxy elders as summed up in the Chinese proverb, “kill the chicken and the monkey shuts up” on the email forum/list was only too successful. It not only drove any lawful – according to G. Price – questions out of the public arena, it also drove them entirely out of the email inboxes of the elders. After seeing how any who had lawful public questions in the church were treated by the elder anointed surrogates, it ought to have been no surprise to the elders that there was no overwhelming desire on the part of the sheep, to become further grist for the mill by venturing a question or concern in private to the elders.

Luke 23:31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?

But a surprise it was. When objections came following the Oct. 18 deadline to the confidential Oath of Oct. 4, ‘06, four months after the PPSA, the elders were shocked and amazed at the same. ‘But nobody said anything.’ Rather, why would anyone expect them too, seeing what went before? (The vain and circular reasoning has continued though. Somehow since there has never been any objection to the church government of the former RPNA, that must mean it is of divine right and lawful. So too the oath and so on. But since when has mutual, congregational or tacit, as in ignorant - as opposed to informed – consent determined the lawfulness of any presbyterian court? This from those who cry independent and congregationalist as the first hint of any whisper of objection to the oath or the PPSA.)

Even further the SESR tells us:
Secret societies and meetings may be warranted when a Church backslides into apostasy, when the Officers of the Church become unfaithful, obstinate, and persecutors of the faithful, and when members must secretly remove themselves from such an unfaithful Church and must necessarily band together for their own preservation (as did the Religious Societies of our forefathers).
Only secret meetings (in such circumstances) are not an unlawful VOLUNTARY association, but a lawful NECESSARY association in order to fulfill the Sixth Commandment in preserving their own lives from a persecuting unfaithful Church (italics added).
Of course the SESR concludes that “This was certainly not the case on the part of those who formed “The Effort” (in June-July of 2006) in order to promote moral reform in the government of the Church within the RPNA (GM).”

We respectfully disagree, particularly with the last in that the parties responsible for it are also those who have not only sinfully refused to moderate and lead the public discussions and forums in this church, they rather have allowed their proxies free rein on those public forums to attempt to bully into silence and conformity those who had any questions whatsoever. They also have disregarded all decency and common courtesy in informing the body of Christ of their decision to not only change the plans and paper for church restructuring, but also that the birth control paper promised, had been put on silent and indefinite hold. As per the SESR and Proverbs 6:18, "he that soweth discord among brethren" includes the pretend elders, as well those who oversaw and approved their efforts to intimidate and accuse other brethren, to the point that for good reason, people doubted the partiality of the officers.

That is to say, the elders have sinfully refused to preach and teach the whole counsel of God, on these matters particularly and publicly. In short, if they are not the “unfaithful, obstinate and persecutors of the faithful” spoken of above in the SESR, they show every indication of becoming that, if the tendering of the oath and the subsequent excommunications do not adequately demonstrate it. (After all, this is not the first church split the undersigned has seen. This is not the first instance of ecclesiastical bullying we have run into, which is probably why we have been so adamant and vocal in opposing it, though many perhaps think we are too harsh or abrasive. Yet we are not so naive or inexperienced as to think it cannot and does not happen in the church of Christ. Rather as the Russian proverb says, ‘when it happens to you, then you will know it is true.’)

The SESR also asks:
“If members of the RPNA (GM) believed any of the above to warrant their secret meetings, why did they remain within the Church and not come out from it for their own preservation as did the Societies of our forefathers in the faith (Revelation 18:4).”
Answer: Again, as unlearned and untaught in these things by those who are called to do so, it takes some time to come up to speed. However imperfectly, we are now at a point to which the SESR refers to where it says, when a “member does not believe the Elders have resolved the significant concern and the concern then becomes a known disagreement that cannot be resolved with the Elders, the member can still bear public testimony after this process is completed.” There has been any number of public testimonies and with all likelihood there will be more, just as this is a response to two of those testimonies. Things are that bad and things have come to that state, the supposed sins of the Effort meeting and the steps to repentance notwithstanding, all the while the previous sins of the PPSA are ignored and excused.

Yet there are again, none so blind as claim they can see. Just how many times must one go to the poisoned well and come up dry, before it is lawful to plead extraordinary times as the elders have done for each and every thing that has come before this church? That, this letter, much more its presuppositions, as well the SESR, does not even begin to answer. Rather in all the events surrounding the PPSA, it ought to be apparent that the elders have refused to moderate any forums or lists, or publicly preach, teach and instruct anybody in the full counsel of God on anything. Rather one is expected to call them up and worm it out of them.

Well, this worm has had enough of the runaround after eight years of it and the public email scandals on the one hand and the four month period to ask questions “privately” about the PPSA which in no way, shape or form is a “restructuring of the church” even though there is only one full time elder now, instead of two when the promise was made, all the while waiting for over three years for the birth control paper. The brethren had a chance, but all they did in the end was hide behind the divine right of long distance phone government and the skirts of their office in order to justify the electronic reincarnation of the original PRCE session, demanding oaths and binding consciences, after siccing their surrogate elders on everybody that wouldn’t go along with the pogrom, before excommunicating members by email.

Now that the church has been providentially thinned down by all the excommunications (33 out of approximately 88 communicant members), things are a little more manageable according to the inefficient and inexpedient way of church government in the RPNA(GM) by this reincarnated session. Yet in all this, one is reminded of the Session of the PRCE’s objections to the Reformation Presbytery which was not a presbytery, its refusal to answer to or acknowledge the same which was one of the reasons for the PRCE’s separate existence in the first place. There is nothing new under the sun.

Brother, in short and in sum, all I know was that I was asked to consult with other brethren privately/confidentially/temporarily in mid June ‘06 regarding this new document and imposition on one’s conscience, which ordinarily I would not do - something which I have always been ready to admit and have admitted long before the recent Sins of the Effort came out - but for the extenuating conditions which, along with the PPSA, you ignore entirely. The realistic alternative in light of all those extraordinary circumstances that surrounded it, as I asked you before and received no real answer, even beyond the shallow and naive analysis of your paper in hand or the SESR's pat assumption was what? A servile submission to whatever the “Session” cares to impose on one’s conscience, after you go to them and they can only nominally address your questions and concerns with either more questions or yet another runaround that avoids the material substance of yours? I respectfully think not.

Again, both your paper and the SESR fail to satisfactorily answer the question when this all started, who caused and consolidated the church “split”, much more just who broke who’s promises that provoked that church split? Furthermore, that you ignore the PPSA and the parties responsible for it in all this is irresponsible, if not as deficient in common sense and reason as the PPSA itself. While the Effort meeting is no more, having been sent without the camp like a scapegoat, it never was what you assert about it. But more than that, it does not remain to bind the consciences of those who choose to remain in the former RPNA as the PPSA to this day does and will in the future, upon the pain of be handing over to Satan. You could at least start your search for the split with that same document and the parties responsible for it.

“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.” Matt. 7:5
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.” Matt. 23:23, 24
“And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” Eph. 6:4

IV. In other words, as you of all people should very well know, the PPSA is nothing but a compilation of a number of fallacies, if not mainly one, that of the undistributed middle term. The other fallacies include shifting the burden of proof, if not confusing an assertion for an argument, in that the PPSA can not tell the difference between the two. It is so bold as to inform us (p.9) that its arguments are not only Scriptural, but of good and necessary consequence (as per WCF 1:6) and so far none of the same have been heard in opposition to the PPSA. Rather we respectfully suggest that the PPSA couldn’t recognize a cogent and valid argument if it stumbled over one and that based on its own testimony. Even before one looks at its limited appeal to Scripture, (Matt. 18 and Acts 15), the subordinate standards (Second Book of Discipline 7:10) and the complete and crying absence of RP historical testimony (as above in the RP of A Minutes, Oct. 5, 1842), again in the main, the PPSA tramples on the light of natural reason with its resort to the fallacy of the undistributed middle term.

In Question 1 it is assumed in all respective instances of the congregation alone in an island, Matt. 18, the council at Jerusalem in Acts 15 and the presbytery in the Grand Debate at the Westminster Assembly, that the court under discussion – whether extraordinary or occasional in the first and third example or ordinary in the other two – not only can ordinarily meet together in person in one place, but also that it does ordinarily meet together. To compare the RPNA(GM)’s extraordinary court to any of these and extrapolate what the PPSA does is to abuse reason and the rules for valid arguments. Rather the RPNA(GM)’s extraordinary court cannot ordinarily meet together and does not ordinarily meet together. Instead in the PPSA (p.9) we are given a judicially unapproved appeal to modern phone and internet technology – not as a lawful help to a court – but to permanently and entirely substitute for and supplant a face to face meeting of the court.

The recent SESR is also bold to tell us that:
Session Meetings (contrary to the view of some) are not “secret” meetings. The Church knows that the Session exists, that it has regular meetings, and that the general purpose of the meetings is for the benefit and welfare of the Church. Minutes of the official Session Meetings are available to members. Those who desire to present a matter to the Session may even join the Session Meeting by way of a conference phone call to speak with the entire Session.
Yet we find it extremely odd, if not also very telling, that this is only the second time that anything like this has been publicly announced in the RPNA(GM) ever since the casual by the bye mention (constitution?) of the “Session of the RPNA(GM)” for the first time on Oct. 31, ‘04. The first and only other time any information on the actual meetings of the Session was publicly announced was in the Response of Oct 28,‘06 by the elders to the Public Protest and Complaint of Oct. 18, ‘06 from the Society of Prince George. We ask again, why does it take a crisis and mass excommunications to find out what should be ordinary, common and well publicized knowledge in a faithful, lawful and orderly church of Jesus Christ, but is not, regardless of the rather late assertion above? To ask is to answer. Maybe our so called “Session/General Meeting” is not so faithful, lawful and orderly as it claims to be.

Even further the council of Jerusalem and the Grand Debate’s presbytery both assume a plurality of teaching elders and resident, if not a proportionate number of, ruling elders for all the congregations and courts represented in and constituting these higher courts. Again, neither of these two conditions apply to the RPNA(GM)’s court. Consequently it is a non sequitur – it does not follow – that the RPNA(GM)’s court has international jurisdiction or can act as a common court over numerous societies particularly when only one congregation has ruling elders (See Geo. Gillespie’s Assertion of the Ch. Govt. of Scotland, I:IV.) The arguments given are all fallacies of the undistributed middle term. But this is by and large to gut Question 1 of the PPSA. (As for mutual consent, it is respectfully being withdrawn, now that one understands what it entails practically speaking and having seen/suffered from the fruit of government and oversight by long distance and out of town and country elders in that we do not think an ignorant consent the same thing as an informed consent, much more lawful.)

Question 2 continues in the same vein, pleading power of excommunication for a supposedly extraordinary session, from the example of an ordinary session, all the while ignoring the ordinary cautions given regarding ordinary and extraordinary excommunications. Question 3 following in the footsteps of Question 1 continues to blatantly contradict the power of order/power of jurisdiction distinctive by insisting that a court is necessary to administer the sacraments. This contra not only Gillespie in his Assertion (I:II), but also the June 14, ‘03 letter from the same brethren responsible for the PPSA, which unequivocally states that G. Price due to his office as a pastor – not the existence of a court, if even a permanent one – may administer the sacraments.

Speaking of offenses against the “common contempt for the public order of the church” for which many have been excommunicated, one might start with the PPSA and this contradiction to what everybody in the church had been working off of for the last three years. Neither is it enough to insist upon what is implied in the same letter. Those who are called to teach are called to make explicit what they would have people take for the truth and clear up any apparent contradictions. For that matter a temporary extraordinary session on site is sufficient to examine for communion if it is still insisted that some sort of court is necessary as per the explanantion of Oct. 28, ‘06 by the elders of the letter of June 14, ‘03.

Yet “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways (James 1:8),” if not that the PPSA is well named. It is a “Petitio Principii” of Sessional Authority, i.e. it “begs the question” of sessional authority, which is yet another fallacy in logical reasoning, in assuming what must still be proved in its triumphant closing comments (p.29), if not all through the document. So too, the recent “SESR". It is assumed in passing that the “Session” not only exists, but that the “General Meeting” is not backsliding into apostasy and the “Officers of the Church” are not “unfaithful, obstinate and persecutors of the faithful,” in that no one denies that ordinarily a secret/private/confidential group in the church is schismatic and sinful. But these are not ordinary times and have not been for some time.

The argument for Question 4 fails to mention that names not only distinguish those who have the same terms of communion from those who don’t, they also distinguish even further among those who have the same terms: The Reformed Presbytery of Scotland or America, the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland or Scotland, the RP or the GM of the RP. Again, reductio ad absurdum, the St. Louis Society can call itself the Session of the RPNA(GM) according to Question 4 of the PPSA because it has the same terms of communion and excommunication as the latter, no?

The problem further is, if you insist that everyone must go privately to the elders or not at all, in light of their membership vow, I already had objected to this bogus line of reasoning for the RPNA(GM) name in a reply to Greg Price on 3/12/06 to a private post from him on of 1/27/06 in which he had stooped to this level of specious pleading for the name of the church. For what its worth, there was no answer from him. Instead within the month, we had received the PPSA with the same deficient defense of the RPNA(GM) as the name for the church. To repeat the obvious, the RPNA(GM) is no GM, never has been a GM and never will be a GM, if its past practice is any indication. So much for the 9th commandment as it is commonly and reasonably understood. Again, you make no mention of this bold, brazen and blatant violation of common sense, plain English and the 9th commandment. Why not?

As for the suppression of the historical RP testimony and binding judicial Minutes of the RP of A, it again has already been mentioned, if not that one could also say that the PPSA supplies the reader with incomplete information or is guilty of overlooking alternatives to the question of how an extraordinary session may be lawfully constituted. But however one wants to cut the cake, at least it may be said that when it comes to the PPSA’s credibility as being agreeable to the light of natural reason, as has been said before, ‘a mind is a terrible thing to waste – unless one is a faithful member in good standing in the RPNA(GM)’.

In short, one eagerly awaits your analysis and critique of this masterpiece of muddled reasoning, which in all equity you must attempt if you are going to have any claim of integrity after giving the Effort meeting and its paper the third degree. For some reason, we think though, we might be waiting as long, if not longer than we have for the birth control paper. Yet for those that are not content to wait that long or suffer such foolishness, the discussion and dissection of the PPSA has already begun. If it will stand, it will stand. If it is a fraudulent imposture and imposition on the consciences of the saints, that too will be known, if it is not now already known. Contra Act 15, the elders cannot/will not defend it publicly against all comers as they ought to and as they are called to. But respectfully at this late date, what else is new? If they can, it is a little bit late, since they have already been more than willing to excommunicate members over it.

In sum, when all is said and done, again the PPSA at the very least sins against reason, if not also history and Scripture and the steps to repentance start with a repudiation of it by those superiors responsible for it, as well the oath and excommunications based upon it.

Will our elder brethren lead the way? That remains to be seen.

Yet one thing we do know.

Christ spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. Luke 6:39-42

The beam remains. The mote has been excommunicated.

Thank you very much.

cordially in Christ
Bob S.

Monday, April 02, 2007

4/2/07, The Covenanted Reformation Offended

From: Christopher T.
To: L. Dohms, G. Barrow, G. Price
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:01:57
Subject: The Covenanted Reformation Offended

Dear elders,

Introduction

I have prayerfully considered your requirement to own and consent to the excommunications that I have expressed disagreement with and denied my consent to. I have determined and resolved in my conscience that the reason why I disagree with certain excommunications and have not made a distinction in my mind against those people is because I think these excommunications were sinful and wrong. I no longer simply deny you my consent (neither dissenting nor consenting because of my issues and questions) to these aforesaid excommunications, but I positively dissent to them. The following amounts to the charges of sin that I am bringing against you and the steps I want you to follow in order to earn my forgiveness, and allow me to offer you the right hand of fellowship.

I ask that you prayerfully consider my words and arguments and then repent of your sins of government and acts of tyranny. It is not a light matter to tell someone they have sinned grievously, but the Scripture makes it a duty to tell a brother or a father of their sin in order to try to reclaim them from the dangerous course they have taken and snatch them out of the fire they have thrown themselves into. Please don't lash out in anger at my words, as may be tempting and we are all too prone to do (myself not in the least excepted) when our ideas and reputation come under attack, but deliberate with sobriety and gravity at the sins you and your court are being charged with before you reply to the church.

Leviticus 19:17 You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.

1 Samuel 19:4-5 And Jonathan spoke well of David to Saul his father and said to him, Let not the king sin against his servant David, because he has not sinned against you, and because his deeds have brought good to you. (5) For he took his life in his hand and he struck down the Philistine, and the LORD worked a great salvation for all Israel. You saw it, and rejoiced. Why then will you sin against innocent blood by killing David without cause?

Psalms 141:5 Let a righteous man strike me -- it is a kindness; let him rebuke me -- it is oil for my head; let my head not refuse it. Yet my prayer is continually against their evil deeds.

Proverbs 27:5-6 Better is open rebuke than hidden love.
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy.

What Excommunications I Dissent To

Mark C. (November 5, 2006)
Belinda C.
Cheryl G.
Mike G.
Teresa G.
Tony M.
Rod S.
Milly S.
Jody S.
Bob S.
Shawn A. (December 23, 2006)
Tammy A.
Martin D.
Taletha E.
Samantha E.
Camilla E.
Hannah E.
Willena F.
Edgar I.
Juana I.
Dee Dee S.
Darren H. (January 5, 2007)
Laura H.
John W.
Sheila W.
Michael W.
Joel C. (February 5, 2007)
Maria C.
Stan B. (March 8, 2007).

The wrongful excommunications of these twenty-nine people are the basis of my charges of sin against Rev. Greg Price, Elder Greg Barrow, and Elder Lyndon Dohms, and the court of the session of the RPNA-GM.

1 Samuel 26:6 Then David said to Ahimelech the Hittite, and to Joab's brother Abishai the son of Zeruiah, Who will go down with me into the camp to Saul? And Abishai said, I will go down with you.

1 Samuel 26:17-18 Saul recognized David's voice and said, Is this your voice, my son David? And David said, It is my voice, my lord, O king. (18) And he said, Why does my lord pursue after his servant? For what have I done? What evil is on my hands?

John 9:34-38 They answered him, You were born in utter sin, and would you teach us? And they cast him out. (35) Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, Do you believe in the Son of Man? (36) He answered, And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him? (37) Jesus said to him, You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you. (38) He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him.

John 16:1-3 I have said all these things to you to keep you from falling away. (2) They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God. (3) And they will do these things because they have not known the Father, nor me.

(In addition to these twenty-nine persons, all other excommunications or acts of church discipline ever transacted by Rev. Greg Price, Elder Greg Barrow, and Elder Lyndon Dohms, or any ecclesiastical court they have been a part of, are also under renewed review and scrutiny by me for any irregularities or disorderliness, which I sadly suspect will only be all too easy to uncover when the light of truth is cast on them.)

When I speak of charges of sin, by way of clarification and to forestall any misunderstanding, I mean charges I am laying before the throne of Christ against the elders of the RPNA-GM and the court they have constructed. These are not charges that I can submit to any presently constituted Reformed Presbyterian judicatory with jurisdiction over both me and the session of the RPNA-GM, nor are these obviously charges that the session of the RPNA-GM is competent or impartial to judge itself, but these are sins I hold against the session and each of the men who compose it that I take up against them with Christ as the judge of both of us. If I had human recourse through Christ's appointed officers I would pursue that avenue but lacking that, I have no recourse but direct appeal to the consciences of Rev. Greg Price, Elder Greg Barrow, and Elder Lyndon Dohms as they stand before the court of the Triune God as both their judge and mine.

Membership Agreement

The RPNA membership terms do not contain any of the following phrases: come to us first , come to us as individuals , come to us privately or any near variant thereof. No such requirements were ever put upon any of these people, nor did those people promise those kinds of things to you.

Furthermore, the RPNA membership terms do not contain any reference to owning the session of the RPNA-GM in any shape or form whatsoever.

The record clearly demonstrates these things. Therefore it is unsupportable for the session of the RPNA-GM to make not owning it on the basis of these same membership terms the grounds of discipline and excommunication, and it is folly to accuse the people involved in the Charitable Inquiry of sinfully violating the membership terms by discussing their doubts and concerns amongst themselves and then jointly submitting their questions to you in a public way in order to receive instruction.

While several people in the RPNA-GM might have owned the session of the RPNA-GM and its jurisdiction and power, it is clear that that was a commitment they were making personally and optionally that went beyond anything found in the public membership terms or in the terms of communion made upon their entrances to membership (which often took place years prior to the formation of the session of the RPNA-GM). There was no mandate or call for the formation of the session of the RPNA-GM. There is no record or deed of constitution. But when the RPNA became the RPNA-GM, there needed to be a mandate and a formal transition from judicial oversight by the Presbytery to oversight by an 'international virtual/common session' of three elders, and that indisputably was never produced. When Prince George protested the affidavit imposed by the session of the RPNA-GM by saying that the session put words in their mouth and constructed commitments they never made, this is what they meant. I agree with that being a just and lawful reason to protest.

The dichotomy between what the membership terms and terms of communion say on the one hand, and what the affidavit oath says on the other, are too manifest for anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Proverbs 22:28 Do not move the ancient landmark that your fathers have set.

John 18:23 Jesus answered him, If what I said is wrong, bear witness about the wrong; but if what I said is right, why do you strike me?

Self-Excommunication?

The session of the RPNA-GM asserts that it ultimately excommunicated these twenty-nine people because they were guilty of excommunicating themselves from membership in the visible church, if such were even possible. But that is false in every way. These people never denied the Christian religion, nor any points of the Reformed religion, Covenanted Presbyterianism, the membership terms or the terms of communion, nor most damningly for the session of the RPNA-GM, did any of them at the time they were given the infamous affidavit oath even say that any part of the said affidavit contained certain falsehoods or heresies. They had doubts and questions about the things found in the affidavit, but the record clearly demonstrates they did not deny any of those things. Therefore, they obviously did not self-excommunicate themselves (if such a thing is even possible or coherent) in any sense from either the RPNA-GM or the visible Christian church, but were most wickedly cast out of the RPNA-GM while not even having reached disagreement on any point of doctrine with the session of the RPNA-GM. So the charge against them, of self-excommunication, falls apart under scrutiny, and nullifies the excommunications by the session that putatively ratified it.

Imposition of the Oath


Unequivocally, the session of the RPNA-GM imposed the affidavit on each of these twenty-nine people when the session knew in advance that each of these people had scruples about the court, as to its nature, extent, jurisdiction and authority. The session wanted these people to affirm something that they knew ahead of time these people had issues with and that they could not swear to. Instead of answering their questions first, the session chose to excommunicate them. In other words, far from them leaving our church, the session of the RPNA-GM kicked them out.

A lawful authority can impose a lawful oath touching anything good and just on the inferiors under its jurisdiction, which it is a sin to refuse, even if a man has scruples about it. However it would be a sin for a lawful authority to impose a lawful oath upon someone not within their jurisdiction. Much more would it be a sin for a lawful authority to impose an unlawful oath on someone outside their jurisdiction, let alone for an unlawful authority imposing an unlawful oath on someone not under its jurisdiction (which would be the height of folly). The sin in these cases would lie with the authority for acting tyrannically, and not with the inferior for refusing to swear an allegedly imposed oath or affadavit.

The affidavit, with content that may or may not be lawful, was imposed by an alleged authority that may or may not be lawful, on people that did not presently affirm the jurisdiction of that authority (viz. the session of the RPNA-GM) over they themselves individually. Therefore it was most lawful and just for these people to not swear the oath and sign the affidavit, because the jurisdiction of the session of the RPNA-GM to act in this manner was not already granted in advance. These people can't be bound to swear an oath to own a court that they don't know exists lawfully or not, and which they never swore obedience to. That would be sinful in itself, and that ironically would be grounds to charge them with public sin in. The many weighty considerations also brought forward that cast doubt on the lawfulness of the affidavit or of the court imposing it also serve to confirm these people in the propriety of their actions.
Hence, the session of the RPNA-GM was in sin for imposing these affidavits and then punishing the non-compliance thereof. Wicked Pilate and Gallio tried to pass the buck by saying it was not their jurisdiction to be empowered to rule (when in fact it was), but even the pagans recognize by the light of nature the impropriety and sin of asserting jurisdiction outside their proper boundaries.

Deuteronomy 21:1-3 If in the land that the LORD your God is giving you to possess someone is found slain, lying in the open country, and it is not known who killed him, (2) then your elders and your judges shall come out, and they shall measure the distance to the surrounding cities. (3) And the elders of the city that is nearest to the slain man shall take a heifer that has never been worked and that has not pulled in a yoke.

Luke 12:13-14 Someone in the crowd said to him, Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me. (14) But he said to him, Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?

John 18:31 Pilate said to them, Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law. The Jews said to him, It is not lawful for us to put anyone to death.

Acts 18:15 But since it is a matter of questions about words and names and your own law, see to it yourselves. I refuse to be a judge of these things.

Unknown Charges

I believe the session of the RPNA-GM sinned in not telling the people who were being charged with sin what the charges were or who the accuser was, even after they were asked. The session required them to swear the oath first before this information would be released to them as defendants. But obviously they could not in good conscience swear the oath which they stated they had questions and concerns about. So the charges and the accuser was never even revealed to these people through formal channels, but only through informal conversations and in talks with third-parties (who absurdly knew more about what the alleged sin was and who the accuser was than the defendant himself). One ultimately does not even know whether there were any charges. Or whether the very charges were having questions and doubts about the things that were put in the affidavit as things that you didn't doubt or have questions regarding. This is a manifest travesty of justice, without precedent or justification among faithful ecclesiastical judicatories, and I charge the session of the RPNA-GM with sin for not releasing this information, and I commend and approve of any named defendant who did not swear such an intrinsically sinful oath.

Matthew 18:15-16 If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. (16) But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.

Luke 17:3 Pay attention to yourselves. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him,

John 7:51 Does our law judge a man without first giving him a hearing and learning what he does?

1 Corinthians 8:12 Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.

1 Thessalonians 4:6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you.

Content of Affidavit

There is no question the Affidavit oath exceeds the scope and range of commitments being made and doctrines and controversies being decided in the membership terms or the terms of communion. Common-sense, not finding in either of those terms agreed unto upon inductance into membership things such as all your positions papers and peculiar doctrines and distinctives as well as oral rulings not released in writing, would then require the session of the RPNA-GM to be charitable towards people who have questions about these alleged additional terms of communion they are supposedly under obligation to. I personally was a member for a very long time before someone told me that the PRCE/RPNA/RPNA-GM elders' position papers as well as unwritten oral decisions were all terms of communion that were of equal (if not superior) weight to the Confession of Faith and Larger Catechism, and you'd get excommunicated for disagreeing with any of them. In retrospect that was the consistent practice of the three men who made up the session of the RPNA-GM but since it was never explicit it took me a while to consciously realize it. It seemed dishonest at the time to not add these to the terms of communion explicitly but I didn't pursue it. However now I am, and I am calling it dishonest and a lie to claim one thing (the affidavit) is our membership while at the same time conveying on our website and in our membership interviews that the membership terms and the terms of communion is our membership. The grand lie of the Affidavit, that it is our membership oath, is worthy of all condemnation. Therefore it was no sin to not swear the oath, and sinful of the session of the RPNA-GM to impose it, because the affidavit is not our membership commitment.

Doubts

I believe the session of the RPNA-GM lied when it was privately explained to some members (but not to all) that the affidavit oath can be sworn even when questioning the content of the oath. This was told to at least _________ and to _________ (and potentially others), who then communicated to everyone else this accommodation the session was granting them. I have many witnesses as well as my own witness to this being the testimony of these two people. The session gave them the permission to equivocate even when the oath tells them they are not to equivocate. _________ perceived the lie for what it was (and he himself charges before Christ the session of the RPNA-GM with this sin), how the session was sinfully lowering its standards to some of its favorites so that the affidavit could be sworn even when one had honest and legitimate problems with the claims being made (just so long as that person did not positively disagree with anything there). On the other hand, the affidavit itself forbids that sort of loosening explicitly. Its preamble says,
If this candidate for membership should say, “I don’t know (or I am not sure) if you are a lawful and faithful Court of Christ,” that person would be positively excluded from admission into membership within the RPNA (GM).

Likewise, if a person who is already a Member of the RPNA (GM)—having already affirmed in his/her membership agreement and by his/her continued membership in the RPNA (GM) that he/she has no known disagreement with the Terms of Communion of the RPNA (GM) and owns the Session of the RPNA (GM) as a Church Court that is both lawful and faithful—fails, when called upon to do so by a lawful authority, to positively continue to testify of these things, that one, also, would be excluded (i.e. removed) from membership within the RPNA (GM) barring repentance.

Besides this being a bald-faced lie, and putting words in members' mouths and constructing commitments they manifestly never made (as my section on membership demonstrates), this also argues directly against the accommodation that was extended to _________ and _________. The affidavit clearly is requiring without equivocation and reservation the testimony that the session of the RPNA-GM is a lawful and faithful church court, while these people were verbally coached to let them know that they can have equivocations and they can have reservations about these things. That's perjury.

Thus when the affidavit oath begins,

I, [Name Removed], freely and voluntarily, according to my own conscience and not being induced or compelled by any unlawful external means, by the grace of God and in the name of Jesus Christ, sincerely, in the plain and common sense of these terms, without equivocation or mental reservation, formally testify that I, [Name Removed], in no way knowingly disagree with [begin list]...
...we are left with no doubt whatsoever that one can not swear the oath when they have equivocations or mental reservations about the things being sworn to. How can any good man or woman swear this, and then bring forward questions that are sincere? Therefore I testify against the session of the RPNA-GM for its sin in both encouraging members to falsely swear the affidavit when they had doubts, and in allowing such false affirmations as well, despite the clear and simple wording of the affidavit itself. I believe this aspect of the case demonstrates great incompetence as well in the session of the RPNA-GM, beyond the sin of false-swearing and perjury it countenanced and encouraged, because if the affidavit was worded with the accommodation in it already, various members might have actually sworn it in that circumstance, not because they had to, but because then it wouldn't have been a lie for them to do so.

2 Chronicles 19:7 Now then, let the fear of the LORD be upon you. Be careful what you do, for there is no injustice with the LORD our God, or partiality or taking bribes.

Psalms 119:113 I hate the double-minded, but I love your law.

Proverbs 6:16-17 There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him:
(17) haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Proverbs 20:25 It is a snare to say rashly, It is holy, and to reflect only after making vows.

Proverbs 28:21 To show partiality is not good, but for a piece of bread a man will do wrong.

Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?

1 Timothy 3:8 Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain.

James 1:6-8 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. (7) For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; (8) he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

James 4:8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Recusal

I protest the handling of this entire matter of discipline and excommunication, as being intrinsically sinful. What is in question is the lawfulness of the session of the RPNA-GM, and the faithfulness of Rev. Greg Price, Elder Greg Barrow and Elder Lyndon Dohms. They are the issue, they are the defendant, and they are the judge. If the issue itself was not the session being a court, or them having jurisdiction over us, then they could say that so-and-so has shown 'contempt of court' (i.e. contempt for the court, its process and its invested powers). But that's the very question

Wikipedia
states the grounds of recusal in a civil court succinctly:
Recusal laws may vary by jurisdiction, but the following are nearly universal grounds for recusal.
The Judge is related to a party, attorney, or spouse of either party (usually) within three degrees of kinship.
The Judge is a party.
The Judge is a material witness unless pleading purporting to make the Judge a party is false (determined by presiding judge).
Judge has previously acted as an attorney for a party.
Judge prepared any legal instrument (such as a contract or will) whose validity or construction is at issue.
Appellate Judge previously handled case as a Trial Judge.
Judge has personal or financial interest in the outcome. This particular ground varies by jurisdiction. Some require recusal if there is any interest at all in the outcome, while others only require recusal if there is significant interest.
Judge determines he cannot act impartially.

A Judge that has grounds to recuse himself should do so.

I believe it is fair and valid to apply these rules meant for recusal in the civil sphere, and making the appropriate alterations mutatis mutandis to the ecclesiastical sphere as well. The three elders of the session of the RPNA-GM therefore obviously qualify for recusal on several grounds, most importantly by the fact that the judge (i.e. court) is a party in an on-going dialog on the lawfulness or validity of the court and whether or not it has jurisdiction over those formerly under the Presbytery's judicial oversight, and that the court has personal and financial interest that are 'significant' in the outcome of the dialog concerning its own lawfulness.

The competency and legality of the court was already at issue among the defendants and the judge, as the record clearly attests, and therefore the impartiality of the court (if indeed there was a court) was impossible. A maxim present in English common law for hundreds of years is that no one should be a judge in his own case. Even pagans recognize judges must be impartial, or not judge at all, and therefore have done better than the session of the RPNA-GM.

I was told by the Session that it rejects its own obligation to recuse (disqualify) itself from judgment because these excommunications are similar (or identical) to punishment for holding contempt for court, its process and its invested powers, which is lawful and just. I reject that based on grounds already offered.

Therefore I charge the session of the RPNA-GM for sin in not recusing themselves sua sponte (on their own motion) and not recognizing that facts leading to their disqualification are present.
Exodus 23:8 And you shall take no bribe, for a bribe blinds the clear-sighted and subverts the cause of those who are in the right.

Deuteronomy 1:17 You shall not be partial in judgment. You shall hear the small and the great alike. You shall not be intimidated by anyone, for the judgment is God's. And the case that is too hard for you, you shall bring to me, and I will hear it.'

Deuteronomy 16:19 You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality, and you shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and subverts the cause of the righteous.

Deuteronomy 17:8 If any case arises requiring decision between one kind of homicide and another, one kind of legal right and another, or one kind of assault and another, any case within your towns that is too difficult for you, then you shall arise and go up to the place that the LORD your God will choose.

1 Samuel 8:3 Yet his sons did not walk in his ways but turned aside after gain. They took bribes and perverted justice.

John 5:30 I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.

1 Timothy 5:21 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality.

Excommunication Restorative, Not Retributive; Only For Obstinacy


How does the session of the RPNA-GM excommunicate people who are still wanting to dialog? The Scripture teaches that the purpose of excommunication is not to condemn the guilty retributively, requiting them pain and suffering for the pain and suffering they caused and delivering vengeance to them. The civil magistrate bears the sword of God's wrath, and requites vengeance and retribution on those who perpetrate evil. With the church, it is not so. They discipline indeed, out of necessity and as a matter of duty, but the end in mind is not vengeance but repentance of the guilty. So to condemn people and cast them out of the visible church while not being obstinate in their opposition to the session's documents and still sincerely interested in instruction and communication, is blameworthy and to be deplored. The session of the RPNA-GM is guilty of the sin of excommunicating non-obstinate persons in each and every instance of the twenty-nine people who were wrongly excommunicated. If the representative church, the eldership, is to excommunicate even the obstinate with great carefulness and after many warnings and admonitions, both private and public, and only then proceed with the final censure, then how much more those who were neither obstinate or unteachable and were just asking questions

Proverbs 18:13 If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.

2 Corinthians 2:5-10 Now if anyone has caused pain, he has caused it not to me, but in some measure -- not to put it too severely -- to all of you. (6) For such a one, this punishment by the majority is enough, (7) so you should rather turn to forgive and comfort him, or he may be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. (8) So I beg you to reaffirm your love for him. (9) For this is why I wrote, that I might test you and know whether you are obedient in everything. (10) Anyone whom you forgive, I also forgive. What I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ,

1 Corinthians 5:5 you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,

Acts 15:1-2 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved. (2) And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question.

Jude 1:22-23 And have mercy on those who doubt; (23) save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh.

Leviticus 19:18 You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.

First Book of Discipline, The Seventh Head (Of Ecclesiastical Discipline),1560
For the church ought to be no more severe than God declares himself to be, who witnesses that, In whatsoever hour a sinner unfeignedly repents, and turns from his wicked way, that he will not remember one of his iniquities [cf. Ezek. 18:21-22; 33:14-16]. And therefore the church ought diligently to advert that it excommunicate not those whom God absolves.

If the offender called before the ministry is found stubborn, hard-hearted, or one in whom no sign of repentance appears, then must he be dismissed with an exhortation to consider the dangerous estate in which he stands; assuring him, if they find in him no other token of amendment of life, that they will be compelled to seek a further remedy. If he within a certain space shows his repentance to the ministry, they must present him to the church as before is said.

Excommunications are Serious

I think the session of the RPNA-GM had become callous in its tyranny and after so many unlawful excommunications, it has lost sight of the most important truth: a true and lawful excommunication is serious. When a man is excommunicated, he is in a bad state--actually an awful state. His soul is in serious danger. Hell is at the doorstep and it is knocking. But all these godly people the session excommunicated, are their souls in eternal danger for disowning their court, or not owning their court, or for disassociating? The session would have to say yes, but in practice even they don't really believe that as they fixate on questions of consent, and alleging sin by not positively owning them as a court, and then talk publicly (to which there are many witnesses including my own) about seeing these same people in heaven in the future. It profanes the ordinance of church discipline to have it all treated so cavalierly, which is sinful.

Excommunications are for Clear Reasons

If the (non-excommunicated) members of the RPNA-GM were polled and asked what the above twenty-nine people were excommunicated for, only quite few of them would give the 'right' answer, that it was because they were self-excommunicated (by failure to reaffirm the affidavit oath). Most of the members would probably say they were excommunicated for failure to swear the oath, not remembering this casuistry regarding self-excommunication and think it was just a sin they had done that got them cast out. Others might not even know that and make false claims about these twenty-nine people denying your government. Some might even propose some other false or gossipy reason. My point is that in faithful churches with faithful church courts that conduct faithful excommunications, there is no doubt whatsoever why that person got excommunicated. Atheism. Unrepentant fornication. Obstinate adultery. Arminianism. That's what the people would say because there would be one or more clear gross unrepentant sins and offenses that person was guilty of, done in opposition to the clear teachings of scripture and the unanimous testimony of the historic faithful church. Which then puts that person in a very terrible position (not that they're not saved perhaps, but that they're in a very dangerous position). But in the RPNA-GM, it is not so. People virtually never get excommunicated for any direct sin, or the real reason they are dissociating, but it is always some secondary procedural thing, Dissociating because of scruples , Familiar fellowship with those who dissociated because of scruples about an excommunication , Not affirming the elders' testimony under oath because of scruples . We've grown too used to accept that sort of flimsy reasoning. We've even moved past it so from now on, no one will ever get excommunicated for any manifest gross sin, because when they fail to swear the affidavit oath which confirms things they already have scruples with or oppose, they'll get excommunicated for that rather than the real gross sin they're guilty of. I condemn this as sinful and unhistorical. The faithful Reformation Reformed churches condemned people only for their real sins (e.g. as in the Church Order of Dort, and the Scottish First Book of Discipline) and the people knew what that sin was. It was a complete reversal from the modus operandi of the session of the RPNA-GM.

Illustrations by the Light of Nature

The Husband

What kind of elder would counsel a husband, who has a wife that has a scruple over his authority, to assert and maintain his authority as opposed to dealing with her scruple and answering her questions? If the husband said, Wife, I won't even begin to answer your questions until you say that you own my authority. You will submit to me fully and completely or I will lawfully divorce you.

That would be highly problematic, and be detrimental marriage counseling.

The Priest I


There is a member of the Roman Catholic Church who affirms and explicitly declares that he owns the infallibility of the pope and him being the Vicar of Christ. And then he begins to read the Scriptures, and he begins to heavily doubt that the pope has this kind of authority, and that this kind of government is reflected in the bible. So he begins to ask questions. The response of the priest, or of the pope himself is, Affirm that you will own my authority, and then we will work through your questions. But that is what the very scruple or question is about.

How about you convince me? the man answers.

The Priest II

Taking the previous example one step further: So the pope writes a paper to convince him of his authority, and before the man is allowed to ask questions or engage with the paper that the pope wrote, the pope says, Okay, now own my authority, because I wrote the paper. The argument is self-evident, but I, appealing to your weaknesses, wrote you this paper. Here you go, now you'll need to affirm my authority. But the man says, I need to engage with the ideas you just gave me. But the Pope replies, No no, affirm my authority first.

Even the light of nature tells us that this is a recipe for disaster.

The Tax-Protestor

A man in the United States is taken to court for not paying income tax. When defending himself he says he doesn't know why he has to pay income tax because he has never seen a law that says he has an obligation to pay the income tax (and he has searched thoroughly first and asked many people). He wants to see the law requiring payment of income tax before he will pay it, but if he sees it, he would be happy to pay back the government with interest all the money he owes them. The man is not saying there is no law requiring payment of an income tax, but just that he hasn't seen such a law himself and for all he knows it doesn't exist.

If the government produced the specific law and then demanded punishment anyway, we would see that as petty. If the government did not even produce the law but through bluster and intimidation required the jury or judge to punish the man anyway, that would at best be intolerable and at worst tyranny. The only course of action that would be honorable would be for the government to produce the law and then allow the men to pay back everything owed, or admit there is no such law and have the trial dismissed and the charges dropped.

If even a civil court can exercise mercy and accommodation, when it has a mandate to avenge wrong-doing with punishment, then how much more should an ecclesiastical court show mercy and accommodate the weakness of a brother when he has scruples, in order to reclaim that brother to the cause of righteousness.

Conclusion

No example in the Bible (other than the murder of the Son of Man himself) better illustrates the abuse of power, and the exercise of tyranny, than the persecution and attempted murder of David son of Jesse by King Saul. Though innocent of any crime, Saul pursued him irrationally and sought his life. But even Saul himself came to recognize the sinfulness of what he was doing (though he relapsed), and condemned himself. Please elders, learn from Saul, and turn back from the wicked path you have undertaken to persecute the many faithful who raised questions about the immense power that you were jealous (to a fault) to guard, and bear fruits in keeping with repentance.

1 Samuel 19:4-7 And Jonathan spoke well of David to Saul his father and said to him, Let not the king sin against his servant David, because he has not sinned against you, and because his deeds have brought good to you. (5) For he took his life in his hand and he struck down the Philistine, and the LORD worked a great salvation for all Israel. You saw it, and rejoiced. Why then will you sin against innocent blood by killing David without cause? (6) And Saul listened to the voice of Jonathan. Saul swore, As the LORD lives, he shall not be put to death. (7) And Jonathan called David, and Jonathan reported to him all these things. And Jonathan brought David to Saul, and he was in his presence as before.

1 Samuel 26:21-25 Then Saul said, I have sinned. Return, my son David, for I will no more do you harm, because my life was precious in your eyes this day. Behold, I have acted foolishly, and have made a great mistake. (22) And David answered and said, Here is the spear, O king Let one of the young men come over and take it. (23) The LORD rewards every man for his righteousness and his faithfulness, for the LORD gave you into my hand today, and I would not put out my hand against the LORD's anointed. (24) Behold, as your life was precious this day in my sight, so may my life be precious in the sight of the LORD, and may he deliver me out of all tribulation. (25) Then Saul said to David, Blessed be you, my son David You will do many things and will succeed in them. So David went his way, and Saul returned to his place.

You've slanderously likened those who were wrongly excommunicated to Korah, Dathan and Abiram, but the priests of Malachi 2 is a better scripture to look up for its instructive example for our situation. Take heed, and repent and seek the Lord while he may be found. Who knows, it may be your last chance.

Malachi 2:1-9 And now, O priests, this command is for you. (2) If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the LORD of hosts, then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings. Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart. (3) Behold, I will rebuke your offspring, and spread dung on your faces, the dung of your offerings, and you shall be taken away with it. (4) So shall you know that I have sent this command to you, that my covenant with Levi may stand, says the LORD of hosts. (5) My covenant with him was one of life and peace, and I gave them to him. It was a covenant of fear, and he feared me. He stood in awe of my name. (6) True instruction was in his mouth, and no wrong was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and he turned many from iniquity. (7) For the lips of a priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts. (8) But you have turned aside from the way. You have caused many to stumble by your instruction. You have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says the LORD of hosts, (9) and so I make you despised and abased before all the people, inasmuch as you do not keep my ways but show partiality in your instruction.

I call upon you to repent of the preceding twenty-nine excommunications, which were manifestly sinful and abundantly unlawful, and to admit the unlawfulness and invalidity of these same excommunications, and that you were solely responsible and the alone guilty parties in creating the schism that has happened within our communion. Then you will have to personally seek the forgiveness of each and every member of the RPNA-GM for your sin. Lastly you will have to voluntarily suspend yourselves from a position of authority and rule in the church of Christ as we collectively evaluate whether you can be called to minister by anyone (in the case of Rev. Greg Price) or be called to represent anyone (in the cases of Elder Greg Barrow and Elder Lyndon Dohms), or whether your past scandalous actions, and generalized incompetence and wicked dealings, have rendered you unfit to continue in the position of authority indefinitely.

1 Thessalonians 1:5b You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake.

3 John 9-10 I have written something to the church, but Diotrephes, who likes to put himself first, does not acknowledge our authority. So if I come, I will bring up what he is doing, talking wicked nonsense against us. And not content with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers, and also stops those who want to and puts them out of the church.

First Book of Discipline, The Eighth Head,1560
If any minister is deprehended in any notable crime, as whoredom, adultery, murder, man slaughter, perjury, teaching of heresy, or any such as deserve death, or [that] may be a note of perpetual infamy, he ought to be deposed for ever. By heresy, we mean pernicious doctrine plainly taught, and obstinately defended, against the foundation and principles of our faith. And such a crime we judge to deserve perpetual deposition from the ministry; for most dangerous we know it to be, to commit the flock to a man infected with the pestilence of heresy.

Some crimes deserve deposition for a time, and while [until] the person gives declaration of greater gravity and honesty: as if a minister is deprehended drunk, in brawling or fighting, an open slanderer, an infamer of his neighbour, factious and [a] sower of discord, he may be commanded to cease from his ministry, till he declare the signs of repentance; upon the which, the church shall abide him the space of twenty days or further, as the church shall think expedient, before that they proceed to a new election.

And if you choose not to repent, and to disregard my words, or don't do any of the things that I am requiring of you in order to forgive you, then I will have no choice but to take that as evidence of your obstinacy in sin and hardening against the truth, and grounds for lawful dissociation from you three men as elders and church officers, and a most lawful and just reason to decline the authority of the court calling itself the session of the RPNA-GM .

Exodus 23:1-3 You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. (2) You shall not fall in with the many to do evil, nor shall you bear witness in a lawsuit, siding with the many, so as to pervert justice, (3) nor shall you be partial to a poor man in his lawsuit.

Deuteronomy 19:18-20 The judges shall inquire diligently, and if the witness is a false witness and has accused his brother falsely, (19) then you shall do to him as he had meant to do to his brother. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. (20) And the rest shall hear and fear, and shall never again commit any such evil among you.

Proverbs 14:1 The wisest of women builds her house, but folly with her own hands tears it down.

Romans 16:17 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.

1 Timothy 5:20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

Titus 3:10-11 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

John Brown of Wamphray, An Apologetical Relation of the Particular Sufferings of the Faithful Ministers and Professors of the Church of Scotland, 1660, 1845, SWRB reprint, 1996, p. 146
It is true private Christians may not set themselves up into the chair, and judge of the endowments and qualifications of ministers, and what nulleth their office and what not, yet every private Christian hath the use of the judgment of discretion, and that way may judge whether such an one appears qualified according to the rule of the word or not.

Lovingly submitted in the fear of God,

Sincerely,
Christopher T.

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From: Christopher T.
To: Greg Price
CC: Greg Barrow, Lyndon Dohms
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:20:42 -0600
Subject: Dissociation

I have received your affidavit and its message is loud and clear. You have chosen to disregard my words and not do any of the things that I believe Scripture requires for you to be restored from your state of sin. Instead you have dismissed my charges as mere false accusations and sent me the very oath I had just declared was an unlawful and sinful snare. I take that as ample evidence of your obstinacy in sin and hardening against the truth, and therefore biblical grounds for formally dissolving our existing ecclesiastical relationship. Thus I lawfully and peaceably dissociate from you three men as elders and church officers, and most lawfully decline the authority of the court calling itself the session of the RPNA-GM , effective immediately.

Christopher T.

3/30/07, For Your Consideration: Q2 Limits of Modern Technology?

The other posts in the series are:
For Your Consideration
Q.1 Excommunication by Email?
Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?
Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?
Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication Notice
Q6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms
Q.7 Why Read the Banns?



Dear Brethren,

Thank you for being willing to read the thoughts of an unworthy sinner such as myself. Below please find some additional points for your consideration.

Your brother,
Stan

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2. Does modern technology replace the need for face-to-face communication?

Several weeks ago I had the privilege of hearing a lecture by Dr. Fred Brooks, a distinguished professor of Computer Science at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Dr. Brooks is the recipient of the Turing Award, which is often referred to as the Nobel Prize of computing, for his significant contributions to software engineering, computer architecture, and virtual reality. His work is highly regarded, and his classic text on Software Engineering is still widely read today more than 30 years after it was first published. (The book also contains an analogical reference to the Trinity, thus revealing his profession of the Christian faith.)

The subject matter of the lecture was collaboration in design, with an emphasis on telecollaboration (i.e., collaboration at a distance). One example he provided was the Airbus A380, the high-tech passenger jet that was designed by engineers scattered across Europe. The cabin interior and part of the fuselage are produced in Germany, the wings are developed in the UK, the tailplane and landing door gears are made in Spain, and the final product is assembled in France. Dr. Brooks related a conversation that he had with the chief engineer of the project. He asked, "What enables your engineers to work together on a project when they are physically separated from one another? How do you ensure that the wing designed in Britain will fit the fuselage designed in Germany?"

The response that he received was quite instructive. With a large budget, the engineers had unprecedented access to the best of modern technology, not only telephone and email, but also video conferencing, telecollaboration software, and the like. And they used this technology to its fullest potential. Nevertheless, the answer that he received did not involve technology but rather on an old-fashioned concept called "face time". In the opinion of the chief engineer, two things contributed to the success of the project. First, "ambassadors" were placed in the various design teams. For example, representatives from the design team in Germany were physically on site to help the design team in England interpret the specifications coming from Germany. Secondly, planes flew every day to physically carry the engineers and managers from one of the design teams to another, affording them daily face-to-face interaction. As Dr. Brooks so well summarized in the title of one of his Powerpoint slides, "Face to Face Interaction is Critical."

Here we have two men who are thoroughly acquainted with the capabilities of modern technology saying that face-to-face interaction is indispensable for effective communication. Now, if such interaction is crucial to building a lifeless, soulless piece of machinery like an airplane, how much more crucial is it to building spiritual growth in the body of Christ? If engineers with access to the best that modern technology has to offer cannot even get two pieces of metal to fit together without extensive face-to-face interaction, how can brothers come to know one another's minds and do their duties to one another through emails and telephone calls? Obviously I believe that technology has its advantages -- after all, I am using email right now -- but we would be wise to recognize its limitations as well. Although technology can be used as a *supplement* to traditional means of communication, it is not a *substitute*.

One insightful application of this principle can be found in a survey conducted by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), the largest technical professional society in the world. It would be difficult to find an organization whose members are more familiar with the capabilities of modern technology than the IEEE. The question of the survey was, "How far would you walk to avoid talking with someone over the phone?" It turns out that the answer given by the respondents depended upon the purpose of the communication: The more important the matter, the greater the distance they would be willing to travel. For example, to invite a coworker to lunch, respondents said they would only be willing to physically get up and walk if the person were across the hall; but for more distant coworkers, they would pick up the telephone. To fire a secretary, however, respondents said they would actually get on a plane and fly across the country to avoid having to communicate such important and personal information over the telephone.

Such an answer reflects a light of nature principle, namely that important business is best conducted face-to-face, even if it involves great personal sacrifice to travel from one location to another. If these worldly engineers are willing to travel thousands of miles rather than relay bad news to a coworker in an impersonal manner, what are we to think of church officers who find no shame in casting out brethren remotely without making any attempt to communicate the matter in person? Is the human soul (and a brother's at that) less important -- and deserving of less dignity -- than a coworker's temporal job that is destined to perish anyway, like the grass? Are these elders more aware of the benefits and capabilities of modern technology than the engineers who developed the technology in the first place?

Perhaps unbelievers have something to teach us regarding the need for face-to-face interaction. Perhaps, too, we can learn from the faithful brethren that have gone before us. This need, for example, is echoed by the Presbyterians of the Westminster Assembly:

"It is ordinary for Synods to send Synodical Epistles and Decrees to particular Churches, not by the Commissioners who came from those Churches, but by chosen men, partly to express their great respect to the Church...." [The Answer of the Assembly of Divines (The Grand Debate), p. 63]

In other words, when a Synod makes a decree, it notifies the churches under its care by sending chosen men to deliver the message in person. Surely such a decree could be delivered by other means (e.g., a written letter), but the importance of the matter warrants a more personal approach in order to express respect to the people on the receiving end. To do otherwise would be somewhat discourteous and inconsiderate. Thus, this principle of insisting upon face-to-face communication for important business is not only found in the light of nature but also has been received into standard historical Presbyterian practice.

Obviously, in a church with members distributed throughout the world, thousands of miles from one another, one cannot expect to have as much face-to-face interaction as would be possible in more ordinary times. However, it has been acknowledged by all the members with whom I have spoken over the years that this church is sorely in need of better communication. And it appears that the heavy reliance upon technology as a substitute for face-to-face interaction is a fundamental hindrance to the problem ever being solved. Perhaps this provides one reason why this church has not grown since its inception eleven years ago, namely, because the elders have adopted a model of communication that does not generalize to larger groups of distributed people. Perhaps this church will never grow for this same reason. As much as one may wish to explain away circumstances by appealing to Providence, the fact remains that our beliefs and actions have consequences. If we neglect the various means available to us (even in the present extraordinary circumstances) to ensure more face-to-face interaction, we cannot expect the healthy growth of a body of believers. With these considerations in mind we should ask ourselves, Is there really no more expedient way to govern a church such as this one?


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3/20/07, For Your Consideration: Q.1 Excommunication by Email?

The other posts in the series are:
For Your Consideration
Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?
Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?
Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?
Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication Notice
Q6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms
Q.7 Why Read the Banns?



Dear Brethren,

I humbly submit the following question below for your consideration.

Your brother,
Stan

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1. Should an ecclesiastical court excommunicate someone via email?

Let us begin by assuming that I am a scandalous sinner who has obstinately committed a sin worthy of excommunication. And let us assume that I am a member of a lawful church governed by a lawful court of Christ. In such a case, it is natural to ask, what is the proper procedure for carrying out my excommunication?

We live in an age of unprecedented technology. Just in the past decade, email has become so ubiquitous as a means of communication that it is hard to remember what life was like without it. With just a few presses on the keyboard, any one of us can send (nearly instantaneously) a message to someone on the other side of the world. One can even send a message to a large group of people at once. On the one hand, email has brought us closer together, enabling more rapid and frequent communication than was possible before. On the other hand, the increasing technology has, in many respects, caused our society to lose (in my opinion) many of the social graces and acts of civility which were taken for granted by previous generations.

Man is a social creature, and face-to-face interaction is important for any human relationship to remain healthy. Listen to the Apostle John's longing to see his brethren in person: "Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full" (II John 12; cf. III John 13-14). John was not content to use the technology available to him (namely, paper and ink) as a substitute for personal, up-close interaction. Rather, he knew that the bonds of Christian fellowship are greatly strengthened by face-to-face interaction. He knew that without such interaction, our joy in fellowship is not complete.

The light of nature teaches us that, because of the dignity of the image of God on the receiving end, some instances of communication -- particularly those of weighty importance -- ought to be conducted face-to-face. Suppose a young lady were to receive an email from her beau asking her to marry him. Would you expect her to be overwhelmed at the tender care displayed to her, or would you expect her to be insulted? Or suppose a married man were to receive an email from his wife declaring her intention to seek divorce. Would that form of communication be sufficient, or would the husband's innate desire be to see his loved one face-to-face to try to work out their differences? As another example, suppose that one day you noticed in your Inbox an email from the hospital saying that your wife (or husband, or other loved one) had been suddenly killed in an automobile accident? Would that be a charitable way for the medical staff to communicate a matter of such weighty importance, or would it be an indication of lack of civility? Even unbelievers know instinctively that something is just not right about relying on the modern technology available through telephone, email, or fax, for important notifications. This is why it is the policy of secular authorities to physically send someone to your door, or to ask you to physically come to the hospital, to inform you of the news of the recent death of a loved one. Is it possible that they have something to teach us?

The law of charity is always applicable, whether in ordinary or extraordinary times. As such, this law should always be kept in mind when considering whether an action is lawful: "If there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Rom. 14:9). Suppose that, God forbid, the state were to pronounce you guilty and notify you of your impending execution. Which of you would like to receive such notification via email? Although the sentence itself would be the greater sin (assuming that you were innocent), would not the chosen means of communication add insult to injury? Is human life so cheap that it is not worth a more dignified presentation to notify it that it will end? Drawing an analogy, is the human soul so cheap that an email is sufficient to convey the gravity of the situation when that soul is cast out of the church of the living God?

I think we would all agree that certain actions require face-to-face interaction. A hug, a kiss, holding hands, a foot massage, and other signs of affection cannot be done remotely. Even if the technology were advanced to such a degree that such actions could be simulated with arbitrary precision using visual feedback from a retinal display, auditory feedback from an array of directed speakers, a haptic interface for providing tactile stimuli, and a chemical device to stimulate the olfactory nerves, it would still not be a genuine hug. Friends, of course, cannot share a meal together over the telephone, and a marriage cannot be consummated via email. Ecclesiastical actions are governed by this same principle. When the Apostle tells the brethren to greet one another "with a holy kiss" (Rom. 16:16), he is requiring face-to-face interaction. Would we participate in a distributed Lord's Supper service using videoconferencing technology, or would we allow a pastor to administer baptism using a teleoperated robot? If not, then is it possible that church officers should not use technology to administer an excommunication via email?

Allow me, if you will, to advance the argument one step further. Much has been said by others about the benefits of modern technology, so it is only fair for us to consider its limitations as well. The Scripture commands parents to discipline their children with the rod: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." (Prov. 13:24) Suppose a man were to invent a mechanical device that, by means of an electric motor, oscillates a rod up and down in a spanking motion. Suppose the device were connected to the internet so that the man, while on a business trip, could dial-in using his laptop and administer discipline to his son thousands of miles away at home. Would this be a lawful use of technology? Would we consider such a father wise and prudent, or would we instead counsel him to wait until he returned home so that he could talk with his son face-to-face about his sin and express his love for him via tangible means such as hugs and kisses, in order to maintain a healthy relationship?

Similarly, the Scripture places the authority of the sword in the hands of the civil magistrate (Rom. 13:4). Suppose that the state were to rig an explosive device in the home of the convicted man (after an orderly trial in which he was found guilty) that could be triggered remotely. One day the executioner presses a button, and thousands of miles away the man's life is extinguished. Would this be a lawful use of technology? At what point does a lawful execution bear so much resemblance to an unlawful murder, simply because of the undignified manner in which the procedure is conducted, that it becomes unlawful?

As we all know, three forms of government are intrinsic to the created order of human societies: the family, the state, and the church. To these three governments God has given the power of the rod, of the sword, and of excommunication, respectively. If we cringe at the seemingly unnatural use of technology to administer the rod remotely, and if we cringe at the grotesque use of technology to administer the sword remotely, then is it possible that we also should object to the unnatural use of technology to administer excommunication remotely? If it is unlawful for a father to remotely administer the rod, and if it is unlawful for the state to remotely use the sword, then can the church lawfully administer the most severe form of discipline available to it -- namely excommunication -- by sending an email? Is this the proper way to handle such a censure, even in extraordinary times, or is it such a deviation from the created order as to not be a lawful approach, even if the one being shunned is guilty?

Even if sending such an email were lawful, would it necessarily follow that it was expedient? The Apostle Paul warns us, "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient" (I Cor. 6:12). Just because something is lawful does not mean that we ought to do it. Since the goal of excommunication is to restore the erring brother to fellowship, we must ask whether this is an expedient means to accomplish that goal. Would it not have been more charitable and expedient for Mr. Price, Mr. Barrow, and Mr. Dohms to have delivered this message to me in person, face-to-face? After all, we live in an age of unprecedented technology, which extends not only to communication but also to travel. In just a few hours of flying on a plane, any of them could have been here in my city, and I would even have volunteered to pick them up from the airport. Being here in person would have made the joy of our fellowship more full (as the Apostle says), it would have enabled more extensive and effective communication to ensure that we had not misunderstood one another, and it would have provided a more dignified presentation of the final result (assuming that I had remained obstinate in my sin). What is a few days of traveling, and a few hundred dollars for a plane ticket, to labor for the saving of a soul? Is Christ's parable about the shepherd leaving the ninety-nine sheep to reclaim the one that is lost of no applicability to our current situation?

Someone may object by saying that these men truly desire my restoration but did not deem it expedient to travel here to my town. After all, what would it have accomplished, since they and I had already reached an impasse? Can they really be expected to physically travel to visit every single person before excommunicating him or her, especially when there is such a large number of persons being cast out as to make such travel impractical? First of all, we should not underestimate the power of God to bring about reconciliation between those who disagree. Since there were many misunderstandings between us in our private correspondence, who knows but that a more effective means of communication (namely, face-to-face) would have enabled us to clear up some of those? Secondly, whether the end result would have been the same, proper procedure still should be followed. We cannot say that a murderer is not entitled to a fair trial and an orderly execution just because the evidence against him is so compelling as to allow no other verdict. Even if we all saw the murder first-hand live on television, we still are not entitled to lynch him at twilight; rather, we must first conduct a proper trial and then end his life in an orderly manner. Finally, suppose that these men were willing to clear up misunderstandings, to follow proper procedure, and to visit me, but they simply were not physically able to do so for whatever reason (e.g., poor health or overloaded work schedules). If so, then what does such a limitation say about the expediency of the present ecclesiastical government, when the people cannot receive face-to-face ministry from even a single elder, even in the most distressing of circumstances? Is there really no other way?


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