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[Updated  2/11/11]   He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient;Article II, Section 3 of the United States Constitution To summarize the recent State of the Union Address Jan. 25, 2011 by the President of the United States of America to a joint

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(updated 1/31/11) A Report from the Friends of the First Amendment Society As the Federal Vision more and more is starting to resemble a  theological gong show, no doubt the Larger Catechism on the Ninth Commandment will be permanently drug  (sic) out of  cold storage and "hurt feelings" will be the de facto response to anything resembling plain and blunt speech, which in its turn will

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Further Remarks on Frank Schaeffer’s Impatience with Fundamentalism and  Infatuation with Mysticism Due to Studied Ignorance of the  Protestant Reformation While this is not a complete book review,  just an examination of the Prologue  which can be read for free on the internet,  to Frank Schaeffer's latest book, some things are still a dead giveaway. Schaeffer still tells us what he thinks

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Leithart, Schlissel, Wilson  and Hal Lindsey  versus the Westminster Assembly, Ursinus, O.T. Allis, R.L. Dabney and John Knox  [Something else grubbed up from the archives and  formatted for the web, in light of Mr. Schlissel's latest confusion on the RPW.] Letter to the Editor Credenda Agenda Mr. Doug Wilson August 10, 2001 Dear Sir, In order to forestall any incipient prelacy in the New

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Romanism, Reconstructionism, the RPW and Rom. 3 1/11/10 As was alluded to in the previous on Mr. Schlissel's latest, been there, done that  is the short hand response. Of course, shortly after the old letter below  was mailed, our active and congenial acquaintance with the mailing list for  Messiah's Community Church Update ceased and desisted. Along with worship issues, the  influence of N.T

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Or More Befuddlements, Old and New on Reformed Worship from the Rev. S. Schlissel [updated 1/31/10] There are any number of things that can be said about Steven Schlissel’s two and a half page pastoral letter “Thanksgiving Reflections” posted Dec. 1, ‘09 at his Just Another Blog in the Wheel site as anybody might have guessed that is familiar with his point of view. Schlissel's latest not

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[revised 2/22/09] As per the previous post, what is at issue in the disagreement over the free offer of the gospel, is whether God "desires" the salvation of the reprobate in any other than a preceptive sense. In other words, if God really desired all men to repent and believe in Christ, it would be a done deal. What God desires must come to pass, for God has no unfulfilled desires or intentions

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[While the OPC Minority Report on Songs in Worship (1946) written by John Murray and Wm. Young advocating psalmody is well known in P&R circles, what might not be so well known is that Wm. Young also wrote the OPC Minority Report on the Free Offer of the Gospel (1948) to Murray and Stonehouse's OPC Majority Report, both found here. What follows below is a further analysis and critique of the

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In a day when both the West and Christianity are under attack in various ways and under various guises, such as multi-culturalism or political correctness, it might be well to remember, that all that glitters is not gold. In other words, not all that passes for Christianity is exactly that. We think this applies to what some call "The War Against Christmas" in certain conservative, nominally

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But Not Without Confusion on the Regulative Principle of Worship, Psalmody and Musical Accompaniment. (From a Dec. 2005 review revised, corrected and updated through 2/1/09) A Long Overdue Review in Part of: The Westminster Confession of Faith in the 21st Century, Essays in Remembrance of the 350th Anniversary of the Westminster Assembly, Ross-shire, Scotland: Christian Focus Publications, (

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Greetings J & D, Thank you for your recent on repentance. On the one hand, the spirit in which it is written is appreciated and the desire for reconciliation of all parties involved is commendable. With that we find ourselves in complete agreement. Likewise to be in hard pursuit of a clear conscience and whether we like to admit it or not, mortifying our own sins is harder than decrying

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September 15, 2008 Dear Friends and Brethren in Christ, In March 2007, the Elders of the former RPNA (GM) produced a document entitled “Sins Committed By 'The Effort' And Steps To Repentance” wherein they sought to identify various and particular sins committed by people involved in the group informally named the Effort which organized to bring common questions unto the Elders. The sins the

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Okay, some folks might not find this too funny (Prov. 17:22, 14:13), but we're not making this up. Rather in light of certain official ecclesiastical pronouncements on the subject which one could be presumably excommunicated for disagreeing with, it could be considered quite relevant. Over at the papist libertarian LewRockwell site they have a mp3 podcast/interview entitled - believe

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Links updated and added 8/2/08 The latest essay on the Trinity Foundation website is “Imperious Presbyterianism” by Kevin Reed. Pavlov aside, the names of both should ring a bell for contemporary presbyterians. Kevin Reed set up Presbyterian Heritage Publications in 1983 to publish historic and contemporary works defensive and expository on presbyterian worship and government. Other than a

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A Succinct Reply to A Succint Rebuttal to the Neo-Steelite Thesis (Drawn from the helpful analysis of Rev. Matthew Winzer and Mr. Kevin Barrow) as posted on the Springs Reformed Church (RPCNA) in Colorado Springs, CO. Revised 6/8/08. [Not only is the Succint Rebuttal of the Neo-Steelite Thesis of interest in its own right, to see it on a RPCNA website - the denomination which other

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12/25/09 This site originated in a controversy over church government which resulted in a number of excommunications in a now defunct ecclesiastical body, the RPNA(GM). Relevant links are listed below. Thank you for your interest. 10/3/06 Original Statement of Purpose. 5/8/08 Revised Statement of Purpose RPNA(GM) Terms of Communion 10/4/06, The New "Confidential Oath" of Membership in the

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Updated and links added 8/3/08, 12/25/09 This site was originally started because of the lack of any real public record - or even due process - in the RPNA(GM) which in part led to, if not exacerbated the excommunications adjudicated by the extraordinary court of that body, the "Session of the RPNA(GM)".  Those [supposedly] judicial actions were based upon the Position Paper on Sessional

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Much ado has recently been made in the popular press about the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, senior pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ congregation in Chicago, Illinois, where Senator Barak Obama, a leading 2008 US Democratic Presidential candidate has attended and held membership for over 20 years. Wright’s remarks about God damning America for its foreign policies particularly predominate

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[Updated 5/3/08.] In that Robbins and Gerety's Not Reformed At All answers, if not largely obliterates Doug Wilson's ""Reformed" is Not Enough", it was a stroke of genius to put Brueghel's masterpiece, "The Parable of the Blindmen" on the front cover of NRAA. In other words, so much for Wilson's touted "medieval mindset" as opposed to the "abstract dictates of the Enlightenment" that the "

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What appears to be the real deal regarding the dissolution of the RPNA(GM) Session has surfaced. Further, both Prov. 25:25 and Prov. 24:17,18 would seem to be applicable: "As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country". "Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn

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Updated Remarks on the Recent "Moving the Landmarks" Sermon. (2/12/06) The chief contention in all that follows with the sermon of 12/23/07 in the subtitle, is that it does not go far enough and penetrate to the real state of affairs in that particular corner of Zion known as the RPNA(GM). Much ado is made about moving the doctrinal landmarks of the church, primarily the Terms of Communion

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[revised 12/18/09] While there is much to agree with in Chuck Baldwin’s column of Jan. 28, ‘08 on Ron Paul and his supporters, “Why Are Ron Paul's Supporters So Angry?”, let’s not put the “high horse” of politics before the gospel or Christianity. Contra the conservative Baptist pastor’s closing comments, if American Christians would just support “the principles of liberty, the U.S.

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2/21/08, Updated Addendum to the Federal Vision's Fraudulent Revision of Reformed Worship. John L. Girardeau's exposition of the historic reformed argument against musical instruments in public worship is little known and somewhat beside the point of the previous comments on Federal Vision's mischaracterization of the Regulative Principle of Worship. Nevertheless it is still worth

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[As promised previously in . . . . And In Secret Have I Said Nothing the following should be self explanatory. It consists of some remarks in red with links in italics on the original sermon "Moving the Landmarks" in black. Further, in that Part II, Chapt. 23:7 of Reformation Principles Exhibited on "Christian Worship" says. "The ministers of religion have no warrant for reading their Sermons to

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Some Necessary Background to the Current Federal Vision Assault on Justification By Faith Alone (updated from 10/2/07) While it is somewhat of an aside to the original reason for this website, it needs to be said that the relevant parties in the current Federal Vision controversy perturbing and disturbing contemporary P&R churches on the doctrine of justification by faith alone, previously

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[updated through 1/2/08] Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. John 18:20 Persecution in the Past and Elsewhere There is no question that here in America and Canada, Christians do not face anything similiar to the Killing Times in Scotland after the Second

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If not Prov. 25:25?As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country.It has been called to our attention recently that the officers of a particular extraordinary ecclesiastical entity or court have been considering formal dissolution. This, in a recent communication of Dec. 2 to the members of the same body - not for spiritual/doctrinal reasons unfortunately - but rather the

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A couple of months ago, Garnet Milne of the Covenanted Reformation website (New Zealand) had some interesting comments on Thomas Boston's well known sermon "The Evil and Dangers of Schism" based upon 1 Cor. 1:10. Boston preached this sermon in 1712 aiming it at the Cameronian covenanters of his day and vicinity, who would not attend worship services of the Church of Scotland as settled in

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Thankful to Who, How and When? There is no question that the Scripture calls us to be thankful and that first and foremost to God. An attitude of gratitude is a given and of the first principle. If we are not, then the progression in sin and judgement begins as set out in the first chapter of Romans. "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but

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The other posts in the series are: For Your Consideratio Q.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology? Q.3 Immediate Excommunication? Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication? Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication Notice Q6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms From: Stan B. To: List Cc: Lyndon Dohms ; Greg Price ;

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A Reply to Principium 1643[links added/updated 10/15/07] Principium 1643 (P1643) seems to be of fairly recent vintage, first showing up on the radar screen about a month ago to our knowledge. (It used to be found here, but seems to have moved here and is dated 7/8/07.) For us, it printed out at 82 pages with numerous subheadings in two sections that together sprawl almost 40,000 words. (See it

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[For a reply, see: 8/20/07, More Non Sequiturs from Mr. NS] Principle, Application & History Section 1 Historical testimony: Judicial criteria/presuppositional accountability Distinctions: Circumstance (true facts) Principle (sound doctrinal position) Application (sound doctrine logically applied via argument) Historical testimony ought not to be

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or The Case of the Belligerent (Want To Be) Barrister Revisited: False and deceptive pretenses are not agreeable to Scripture when it comes to either damage control or defending the faith.[updated 12/28/07]While we aren't scrambling to find Sherlock Holmes's current cellphone number, the latest "who done it" in the RPNA(GM) still should be of some interest to more than just the amateur sleuths

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The other posts in the series are:For Your ConsiderationQ.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication Notice Q.7 Why Read the Banns?From: Stan B.To: ListCc: Lyndon Dohms ; Greg Price ; Greg BarrowSent: Wednesday, May 23,

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From: Rod S.To: [List]Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 7:40 PMSubject: A Letter To YouDear Brethren; As people of association and membership in the Puritan Reformed Church since 1993 (now known as the RPNAGM), we believe the attached letter may offer a perspective not considered by many up to this point and hope you will prayerfully read it without bias. A reasonable amount of time has passed since

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As posted on The Covenant Reformation Club[edited for email bloat, etc.]#15802From: Bob S.Date: Fri May 25, 2007 8:50 pmSubject: To Whom It May ConcernTo Whom It May Concern,Mickey Mouse et al.You don't have to be a rocket scientist, to discern humble Werner (Von Brahn's) fingerprints all over the item below. Evidently when you can't beat them in an "honorable" or reasonable way, sue them. Or at

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The Fraudulent "To Whom It May Concern" Email From: Cheryl G. To: ListSent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:55 AMSubject: In Case you missed it...Dear Folks,I received the following brave communication in my knox inbox recently. I would be interested in hearing if any others have received anything similar.Cheryl G.PS. It is news to me that excommunication is now a private matter.----Original Message-

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From: advocate.for.law@lawyer.com To: advocate.for.law@lawyer.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007, 11:06 AM Subject: NoticeMay 14th, 2007To Whom it may concern:You have been identified as a person or organization that may be of interest in regards to the following matter under investigation. It has been brought to our attention by several private and aggrieved parties that the content

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The other posts in the series are:For Your ConsideratioQ.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns?From: Stan B.To: ListCc: Lyndon Dohms ; Greg Price ; Greg BarrowSent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:14 PMSubject:

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The Covenant Reformation Offended of 4/2/07 is a dissent to the so far 29 excommunications in the RPNA(GM) on the basis of a refusal to take "Confidential [Loyalty] Oath" imposed because it is supposedly synonymous with the Membership Agreement consented to upon joining the PRCE/RPNA/RPNA(GM). (The title is an obvious reference to the previous Covenant Reformation Defended written by

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The other posts in the series are: For Your ConsiderationQ.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication NoticeQ6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns? Friday, April 20, 2007 9:02 PMDear Brethren,As much as I value brevity, I saw no way to reduce the length

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April 20, 2007Dear Chris,I am responding in love and hope to your email (April 2, 2007) wherein you charge the Session with sin in unlawfully excommunicating the following people:Mark C. (November 5, 2006)Belinda C.Cheryl G.Mike G.Teresa G.Tony M.Rod S.Milly S.Jody S.Bob S.Shawn A. (December 23, 2006)Tammy A.Martin D.Taletha E.Samantha E.Camilla E.Hannah E.Willena F.Edgar I.Juana I.Dee Dee

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The other posts in the series are:For Your ConsiderationQ.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication NoticeQ6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns?Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: Q3: Immediate

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Objections to Criticisms of the RPNA(GM) from across the Big Puddle(Below is the first - and international at that - comment the RPV site has received. Some may find it of interest. We have not yet had a chance ourselves to check out the brother's website.)From: Dennis GrutzmacherTo: refveritasSent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 3:15 AMSubject: New comment on What Is This?.In Europe and the USA

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The “Exposé” Exposed and Eviscerated or the Sins of the PPSA and the Steps to Repentance"[For a previous exchange on this topic in January '07, go here. A brother then makes good on March 12, '07 regarding his promise to write an “Exposé” of the Effort meeting/study group. A "judicial ruling(?)" from the Session of the RPNA(GM) is then released March 22, '07, evidently building upon the

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From: Christopher T.To: L. Dohms, G. Barrow, G. Price Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:01:57Subject: The Covenanted Reformation OffendedDear elders,IntroductionI have prayerfully considered your requirement to own and consent to the excommunications that I have expressed disagreement with and denied my consent to. I have determined and resolved in my conscience that the reason why I disagree with

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The other posts in the series are:For Your ConsiderationQ.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication NoticeQ6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns?Dear Brethren,Thank you for being willing to read the thoughts of an

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The other posts in the series are:For Your ConsiderationQ.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication NoticeQ6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns?Dear Brethren,I humbly submit the following question below for your

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Subject: Stan B.'s QuestionsFrom: Lyndon DohmsDate: 3/25/2007 6:48 PMTo: [Church List]Dear Brothers and Sisters,Stan B. has addressed our Members with severalquestions which he proposes to answer in separatepublic emails in order to defend the unlawfulness ofrecent excommunications. We do not intend to engagein a public debate with him when we believe we havealready provided sufficient public

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[Cover Email]Subject: The Sins Committed by the EffortFrom: Lyndon DohmsDate: 3/25/2007 6:45 PMTo: [Church List]Dear Members of the RPNA (GM),Attached are two documents from the Session.Elder Lyndon DohmsClerk of Session[with 2 docs. attached: Sins committed by the "Effort" and the Steps to Repentance (Mar. 22, 2007) & Effort Emails ]______________________________________________________Dear

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[Cover Email]Subject: The Sins Committed by the EffortFrom: Lyndon DohmsDate: 3/25/2007 6:45 PMTo: [Church List]Dear Members of the RPNA (GM),Attached are two documents from the Session.Elder Lyndon DohmsClerk of Session[with 2 docs. attached: Sins committed by the "Effort" and the Steps to Repentance (Mar. 22, 2007) & Effort Emails ]_______________________________________________________________

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[Cover Email]From: Ben H.To: Ben H.Cc: ListSent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:07 AMSubject: EffortPlease see the attached letter. If I've inadvertently sent this to someone who has requested to be left off any further correspondence of this kind, please forgive my oversight.[Attached Document]Greetings to all!I have no desire whatsoever to reveal what comes below. My regret is mainly due to having

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The other posts in the series are:Q.1 Excommunication by Email? Q.2 Limits of Modern Technology?Q.3 Immediate Excommunication?Q.4 What is the standard Presbyterian procedure for excommunication?Q.5. Scriptural Justification for a Three Week Excommunication NoticeQ6. Misinterpretation by Price, Barrow, and Dohms Q.7 Why Read the Banns?From: Stan B.To: ListSent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:49 PM

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"A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste"- Unless You are a Faithful Memberin Good Standing in the RPNA(GM)[revised 3/3/'07]The following remarks, written in the spirit of the long standing (since 1972) United Negro College Fund slogan, may be considered a continuation of the previous Further Remarks on the PPSA: An Introduction. It could also be said, in light of the recent email

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And Ensuing Discussion through 2/5/07[As below, upon the receipt of the first email, there were a number of brethren who felt that charges of conspiracies (but not the 9/11 variety), oaths, secret societies and the responsibility for a church split were to be laid at the feet of those who had signed the Charitable Inquiry [of the PPSA]. Yet they seemed to be more than willing to swallow the

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Without Any Real Mention of Acts 15 and the Necessity of Public Teaching From: Ben H.To: Lyndon DohmsCc: ListSent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:11 AMSubject: Clearing the AirGreetings,In the recent months, I have been outspoken in my dissatisfaction with the Elders' management of the events surrounding the recent excommunications. In several emails, I openly criticized their decisions, and offered

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I. Opening Comments and Background(revised 1/29/07)The Sound of Many WatersAs the third wave of the purge has now rippled through the former RPNA, based upon a refusal to swear the Confidential Oath to acknowledge the Session of the RPNA(GM) as a lawful court of Christ’s church, there are any number of items that provoke further comment. The atmosphere at the moment might appear restrained, if

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In that the undersigned is a "disaffected brethren," i.e. excommunicated, we were not included on the mailing list for “A Vindication of a Faithful Minister” that went out Dec. 25, 2006 at 4:25 PM. We were however included in some of the pious congratulatory gush and empty fluff, that however sincere, was mailed out in response to it. Our comments are twofold. One, those who do not appreciate

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To: [List]Date: Dec 25, 2006 4:25 PMSubject: A Vindication of a Faithful MinisterWhile this is a family's testimony of their husband and father, we would like to acknowledge the faithfulness and loving authority of the entire court. This court has tirelessly laid down its life for Christ's church. We love and thank you all for your years of faithful service and contending for the truth.In light

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Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Regarding our "Excommunication" Our response to our "Excommunications" is attached. Humbly submitted, Edgar & Juana I. Reformed Presbyterian-----Para la Corona y el Pacto de Cristo www.PresbiterianoReformado.org www.TrueCovenanter.comOur submission in regards to the Oath tendered by Teaching Elder (te) G. Price, Ruling Elders

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From: Bob S.To: Lyndon Dohms; Greg Price; Greg BarrowCc: [List]Sent: Sunday, December 24,2006, :32 AM [w. corrections]Subject: Re: Session Response to _______ AllegationsDear Lyndon, Greg and Greg et al,I read with interest your response at large of Wed. Dec. 20th, (though sadly yours of last night was only more of what one has come to expect). Since you took the liberty to include me in the

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From: "Lyndon Dohms"To: [All who signed the Charitable Inquiry who were not yet x'ed and one other couple and an individual]CC: "Greg Price""Greg Barrow"Subject: ExcommunicationsDate: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:06:Dear Brothers and Sisters,Attached are announcements of excommunications.The Session of the RPNA (GM)(w. 14 pdf notices of excommunication for 15 individuals attached)

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From: G.PriceFri Dec 15 2006, 08:17 AM[In reply to the unexcommunicated brethren]Dear Brothers and Sisters,Although I admitted in my letter to you that there were some concerns worth discussing, my letter to you, as dear brothers and sisters whom I love in the Lord, was intended to persuade you to separate yourselves from those who had been excommunicated by the lawful Church Court of

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#15272 Covenanted Reformation ClubFrom: Bob S. Date: Fri Nov 17, 2006 :12 amSubject: Re: Welcome Wayward Covenanters/Read it Yourself If You Think I am Lying[Abridged version on CRC list, full post below.]Dear Gerry and Tom,Appreciate you speaking up on all the current unpleasantness in the RPNA(GM).> Private actions warrant private discussions: these are public acts.> This is a public act.

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From: Common ConcernsTo: Pastor G Price, Elder G Barrow, Elder L DohmsCc: [List]Sent: Thursday, November 09, :16 AMSubject: A Charitable Inquiry Regarding Elders PPSANovember 8, 2006 Cover Letter Dear Pastor Price, Elder Barrow, and Elder Dohms, In the attached inquiry that is before you, many individuals are coming to you with common questions and concerns regarding your position paper

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From: Bob S.To: Lyndon Dohms; Elder Greg Barrow ; Pastor G. PriceCc: ListSent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:02 PMSubject: Re: Session Response Nov. 4A Disaffected Brother Responds to theResponse to Recent Objections of November 4, 2006from Pastor Price and Elders Barrow and DohmsDear Brethren,Thank you very much for your “Response to Recent Objections ” of Saturday Nov. 4. In it, you write

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[This is pretty much the standard Notice of Excommunication that went out from the Session of the RPNA(GM) following the Confidential Oath. The first three waves of excommunication notices numbered respectively ten, fourteen and five members on 11/4/06, 12/23/06 and 1/5/07. More excommunications followed on 2/5/07, 3/8/07, 4/9/07, 4/23/07 and 7/14/07 for a total of 35 out of 88 approximate

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From: Lyndon Dohms To: [List]Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Session Response Nov. 4"Session of the RPNA (GM)"Response to Recent Objections November 4, 2006[Pastor G. Price, Elders G.Barrow and L. Dohms]Since objections have been raised by some about matters related to excommunication by this Court, we thought it would be helpful to write regarding the manner and matter used

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From: Bob STo: Pastor Greg Price; Elder Greg Barrow ; Elder Lyndon DohmsCc: ListSent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: Session Response to "Public Protest and Complaint" November 1, 2006 To Pastor G. Price, Elder G. Barrow, Elder L. Dohms,Dear Beloved Brethren,Thank you for your recent untitled letter of Oct. 28 ‘06, which was in response to the Society of Prince George’

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From: Stan B.To: G. Price, G. Barrow, L. Dohms, ListSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:49 PMSubject: Concerns regarding the interpretation of the letter of June 14, 2003 October 31, 2006Dear Mr. Price, Mr. Barrow, and Mr. Dohms,I have hesitated to write publicly until now, choosing instead to engage with you privately, as I have done on a number of occasions (as you know). However, in your

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Extracts of Gillespie on Excommunication (from a work in slow progress)Congregational Consent to ExcommunicationGillespie in Assertion of Church Government of Scotland of Scotland previous to the first quote on the page in the PPSA (p.16) says regarding the question of the congregation’s consent to an excommunication:One scruple more may peradventure remain. They will say, it is well that we

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[Missed this one in the first go around, but a pretty good (anonymous!) analysis of the PPSA according to the RP terms of communion.]From: Integritas Ecclesia (aka Idgar Ebarra? though he won't admit it.)To: ListSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:37 PMSubject: Elder's Response to S of PG's ComplaintDear Elders and Brethren,Just a brief comment and some observations.Comment:I am allayed that the

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A Brief Follow up to The New Paganism which is a Response to Tattoos And The Word Of God.It has been said by some that:If one of those practices [in Lev. 19] was absolutely forbidden for all time, then all of those practices were likewise forbidden for all time. If it was an absolute moral prohibition to mark oneself on the body because it was unlawful in itself, then it was likewise an absolute

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From: Lyndon Dohms To: List Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Session Response to "Public Protest and Complaint" October 28, 2006 Dear Brothers and Sisters, We, as a Session, bring to you our response to the "Public Protest and Complaint" that was submitted to you by the Prince George Society (October 18, 2006). This is not a response that we approach lightly or

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From: scripture_warnings@hushmail.comTo: scripture_warnings@hushmail.com[Bcc: List]Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:40 AMSubject: Schism1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye shouldbe ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and allpassed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in thecloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

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From: Lyndon Dohms To: [Church List] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: PGS "Public Protest and Complaint" Dear Brothers and Sisters, In light of the recent "Public Protest and Complaint"(October 18, 2006) issued by our brothers and sistersin Prince George, the Session is preparing a responsewhich (God willing) will be ready for distribution latenext week.The Session

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[Any links in the PP&C, have been added.See also:10/28/06 Elders' Response to "Public Protest and Complaint" of SPG] From: Society of PG (RPNA)To: ListSent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:00 PMSubject: PGS Public Protest & ComplaintAttach: PGS_PublicProtest. pdf (54.9 KB)Dear brethren,Knowing our Lord's mercies are 'new every morning', we respectfully submit this to you by way

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Contents:1 Reply to Elders/Oath of Elders2 Subsequent Public Cover Letter to 1____________________________________________From: Bob STo: Lyndon DohmsSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:09 PMSubject: Re: CONFIDENTIAL - OATHDear Lyndon,I am sorry, but this is the best I can or will do by way of receipt, in that among other things, I would respectfully note that I keep hearing from others in the

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[Cover Letter]From: Lyndon DohmsTo: _________Cc: Greg Barrow ; Greg PriceSent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 5:28 PMSubject: CONFIDENTIAL - OATHDear ___,Please confirm receipt of the attached document, by a reply email to all the Members of Session. (Pastor Greg Price, Elder Greg Barrow, and Elder Lyndon Dohms).thank you,Elder Lyndon DohmsClerk of Session_________________________________________[

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(Extracted from the accompanying Letter of 10/4/06 from the former RPNA elders to various parties)I, ________, freely and voluntarily, according to my own conscience and not being induced or compelled by any unlawful external means, by the grace of God and in the name of Jesus Christ, sincerely, in the plain and common sense of these terms, without equivocation or mental reservation, formally

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From: Lyndon Dohms To: [List]Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: Position Paper - Sessional Authority Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,It has come to our attention that there is some question among ourSocieties as to whether our recent position paper entitled, "PositionPaper and Response To Questions Circulated About Sessional AuthorityWithin The RPNA (General Meeting)" is

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From: prce@yahoogroups.com To: prce@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: PRC List : Digest Number 1163The Reformed Presbytery in North AmericaMessages In This Digest (11 Messages)1a. Recap and orientation (was Re: The 'corrective lens') From: Ben H. . .1b. Re: Recap and orientation (was Re: The 'corrective lens') From: personalwg@. .2a. Re: Paper on Sessional

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[Looking back on this, Albany probably wasn't the big deal for B&N. Rather euthanasia referred to the session and Society of Prince George's questions about it, which were largely unknown in the church. Some of us knew something was going on, but nothing specific.]PRCE/RPNA ForumPosted by: Bob SMon Jul 24, 2006 12:06 am (PST)Dear Nick (and Brian),Long time, no hear from, a good thing.Now lately,

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[The entire hypothetical analogy series can be found here.]#3220From: magnalia_deiTo: prce@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, June 26,2006, 11:27 PMSubject: PRC List : Providence interpretedProvidence interpretedFor anyone to interpret providence so as to conclude (as a basis of their faith acting), and thereupon pronounce to the public, that a given calamity in providence is a specific judgment on a

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[Compiled from individual posts and PRCE/RPNA digests, last updated 9/24/08]#3212 From:magnalia_deiTo: prce@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:44 PMSubject: PRC List : GreetingsGreetings to the faithful,I joined the group a few weeks ago, but have not yet posted. I amgenerally reticent to enter into public forums, but since this forumis limited to our member-brethren (and

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From: Lyndon DohmsTo: Lyndon Dohms[Bcc: List]Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:24 PMSubject: Session PaperJune 4, 2006Dear Brothers and Sisters,Attached is a paper titled "Position Paper and Response To Questions Circulated About Sessional Authority Within The RPNA (General Meeting)" The first paragraph of the paper is quoted below:"In the Response that is before you, the Session has decided to

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Interim EmailsFrom: Greg PriceTo: Bob S.Cc: Greg Price ; Lyndon Dohms ; Greg BarrowSent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:23 AMSubject: Fwd: A Brotherly InquiryDear Bob,Since it was a couple weeks ago that we sent our initial response to you, we wanted to follow-up inorder to confirm that our email (dated May 12, 2006)was received by you. We understand you may be very busy with work at the present time

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From: SA To: [List] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Conclusion of Albany Financial Meeting 5-21-06 Dear Brethren, I’m writing so that you may be informed of the public discussion/proceedings regarding Elder Barrow in relation to his salary. Many of you have contacted me requesting information. Pastor Price has publicly given his consent that any individual in Albany can

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[This is the second Excommunication notice with the new tacit consent paragraph added (see also the notice of 5/14/06), as compared to previous notices in Oct. '05 without.]From: Greg BarrowTo:[G.Price, L. Dohms, ______, _____]Bcc:[List]Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:37 PMSubject: RPNA (General Meeting) Session Announcement Announcement from the Session of the RPNA (General Meeting)May 20,

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From: Lyndon DohmsTo: prce@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:30 PMSubject: Session Announcement re: Greg BarrowAnnouncement From the Session of the RPNA (General Meeting)May 20, 2006Dear Brothers and Sisters,The Session has decided that we lack enough income to support two full timeelders in the oversight of our societies. Therefore, September 2006 will bethe final pay period for

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[The italicized final paragraphs on tacit/after the fact consent are included for the first time in this May '06 notice as compared to the previous in Oct. '05. See also the excommunication notice for 5/20/06.]From: Greg BarrowTo: G.Price, L.Dohms, Nate P.Bcc: Church ListSent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:13 AMSubject: RPNA (General Meeting) Session Announcement Announcement From the Session of the

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[The highlighted text below affirms that Tattoos and the Word of God (TATWOG) is an approved paper and position of the Session of the RPNA(GM)]From: Greg PriceTo: Bob S.Cc: Greg Barrow; Greg Price; Lyndon Dohms;Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:26 AMSubject: A Brotherly InquiryMay 12, 2006Dear Bob,We do appreciate you addressing your concerns and disagreements to us so that we might work through the

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From: Bob STo: Pastor Greg Price; Elder Lyndon Dohms; Elder Greg BarrowSent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:47 PMSubject: Re: The New PaganismThe Rise of the New PaganismA Critical Reply to "Tattoos and the Word of God"As regards the paper entitled Tattoos and the Word of God [April 30, ‘06], the problem is fundamental. There is no mention at all, never mind at the beginning of the article, of the locus

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and Various ResponsesAs mentioned below, this paper by TE G. Price of Albany Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church of Albany, New York. accompanied and was a larger exposition of the question in a sermon of the same date.In response to it, see also:5/8/06, The New Paganism(TNP), A Response to TATWOG5/12/06, A Brotherly Inquiry about The New Paganism which not only informs us that TATWOG is

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From: Greg PriceTo:[List]Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:04 AMSubject: Update On Our ProgressDear Brothers and Sisters,We would like to provide you with a brief update. Weare working to complete our report on matters relatedto the structure, administration, and government ofour Church which will be submitted to you all. Due tothe events that have occurred in our lives over thepast three months,

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From: Greg PriceTo: List Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: A Renewed Pastoral Plea Dear Brothers and Sisters, By way of clarification: 1. I did not intend to cut off all opportunity for further public discussion indefinitely. I qualified my plea to US all: "There will be a time to address all concerns in a way that will promote our reformation. But for the present...."

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From: Bob S. To: Pastor Greg Price Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: Re: My Proposed Response To Your Letter Sunday, 3/12/06 Dear Pastor Price, My apologies for taking so long to get back to you in regard to the rough draft of your proposed response 1/27/06 to my request 1/25/06 for clarification regarding the "public accusations of sin" in yours of 1/21/06. I would say at

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From: Bob S.To: Pastor Greg Price Cc: List Sent: Sunday, March 12, :47 PM Subject: Re: A Pastoral Plea To All Sunday, 3/12/06 Dear Pastor Price - and List, I was on the verge of replying Tuesday, 2/14/06 to your request Saturday, 2/11/06 "to discontinue the public debate that has ensued since the Announcement of the Day

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From: Greg PriceTo: Pastor Greg PriceCc: [Church List]Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:01 AMSubject: A Pastoral Plea To AllDear Brothers and Sisters,I urge us all to discontinue the public debate that has ensued since the Announcement of the Day of Prayer and Fasting. I see only further wedges and deeper divisions following from further public debate.I am not judging the motives of any who

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From: Greg PriceTo: Pastor Greg Price Cc: ListSent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:01 AM 2006 Subject: A Pastoral Plea To All Dear Brothers and Sisters,I urge us all to discontinue the public debate thathas ensued since the Announcement of the Day of Prayerand Fasting. I see only further wedges and deeperdivisions following from further public debate.I am not judging the motives of any

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